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Trial evidence belies (Simon) fraud charges
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| August 9, 2002
Posted on 08/09/2002 9:15:52 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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The truth begins to sneak past the LA Times
To: ElkGroveDan
"" Hindelang alone profited, collecting $26 million from the Simon investment in his company.""
So Hindelang profited from the Simon investment, and then tried to profit again by suing them. Who's the predator in this case? I'd say the Gray-Out Davis team, with the LA Slimes doing their part to spread the lies.
Who is it that stands to benefit from CFR? Certainly not the people.
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posted on
08/09/2002 9:28:20 AM PDT
by
jimtorr
To: ElkGroveDan
"Truth" and "LA Times" hardly belong in the same sentence.
More details about the perp... oops, I mean plaintiff, Hindelang, here:
Secret Past Returns to Haunt Entrepreneur (scumbag in court against Bill Simon's company)
My own take on the jury verdict is that Simon is now the poster-child for tort reform:
"Can you believe what's happening? A CEO we invested in signs an affidavit that he has no criminal past. He lied. We fired him. He sues. The judge agrees he doesn't have a case. But he wins! What's wrong with this picture? No businessman, no family, no citizen is safe from tyranny by civil suit. The system needs fixing, and here's my proposal..."
Simon should come out swinging.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; daviddennis; Gophack
PING
To: ElkGroveDan
Hmmmmm. I would trust that the judge will seriously consider tossing the jury's verdict, which he can do...
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posted on
08/09/2002 9:31:59 AM PDT
by
eureka!
To: eureka!
Unfortunately the judge will probably wait until late Nov to do such a thing. (Pure, pessimistic speculation on my part.)
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posted on
08/09/2002 9:35:36 AM PDT
by
Coop
To: ElkGroveDan
CA-WIDE PING
To: ElkGroveDan
DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists
GO SIMON
To: ElkGroveDan
The jury didn't believe the contrary defense evidence. I'm a California trial court research attorney. New trial motions may be granted based only on errors of law or the absence of substantial evidence to support the verdict. I wouldn't be surprised if the trial court judge reduced the punitive damages, but throwing the verdict out is unlikely.
Everything I've heard says the jury was pretty irate at Simon's firm. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Mulholland gets some of them to appear in TV attack ads on Simon.
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posted on
08/09/2002 9:55:10 AM PDT
by
Thud
To: Coop
"Unfortunately the judge will probably wait until late Nov to do such a thing. (Pure, pessimistic speculation on my part.)"Understood, however, post-trial activities and motions I think have strict time limits. I doubt that Simon's attorneys are going to delay anything and will do all they can to keep it moving. We'll see.
On another matter as to this race, I trust you saw the thread with the Washington Times article (if you didn't let me know and I'll find it and ping you) where W is awaiting an RNC funded poll to determine whether to come to California for Simon. Though we may not see the results, we will know the impact of this jury verdict/Grayout ads forthwith if W cancels his appearance. My money says he does not. *fingers crossed for a Grayout backfire*
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posted on
08/09/2002 9:57:43 AM PDT
by
eureka!
To: eureka!
The article I read said Dubya was definitely going through with his Aug. 24th fundraising appearance. Adverse poll results could possibly affect him coming back after Labor Day.
The article also said Bush and Rove both feel Simon can still win.Honestly, I expect Simon to take a hit in the polls, but nothing major. I don't expect voters to flock to the Davis camp. If folks (including the RNC and national Pubbies) would relax and let this thing play out, I think Simon can still win. But as we see here, so-called conservatives and Republicans are falling all over themselves to tell us how Simon doesn't have a prayer.
Then again, they were doing that when all the news was good. :-)
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posted on
08/09/2002 10:10:30 AM PDT
by
Coop
To: Coop
"falling all over themselves" ?
Isn;t that one of the events at the Gerald Ford GOP Track Meet?
To: NormsRevenge
Ba dum bum!
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posted on
08/09/2002 10:27:13 AM PDT
by
Coop
To: Coop
"But as we see here, so-called conservatives and Republicans are falling all over themselves to tell us how Simon doesn't have a prayer"Ain't that the case. *sigh* Methinks many are less that sincere pubbies. Your reading of the article appears accurate too. Definitely an interesting race so far. See ya around...
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posted on
08/09/2002 10:37:52 AM PDT
by
eureka!
To: ElkGroveDan
Friggin LA Times. Investors can't book surprise transactions to the GL unless they are in cahoots with the CFO and the A/P clerk. Of course CEO Hindelang knew!
Friggan LA jury. Bunch of unemployeed rich-hollywood-liberal-wanna-bes. All friends of Woody Herrelson, I'd presume.
To: eureka!
I would trust that the judge will seriously consider tossing the jury's verdict, which he can do...He should, if there is justice in the world, and issue a statement that the jury was filled with a bunch of idiots who should never have been empaneled!
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posted on
08/09/2002 3:33:53 PM PDT
by
Gophack
To: Coop
Do I gotta pay you scale for that drum effect? Im just a poor disciple of Henny Youngman. :-)
BTW, Has Gerald Ford chimed in recently on the War on Terrorism?
He will always be remembered for the Warren Commission Omission, the pardon of Nixon, and Mayaguez incident.
To: NormsRevenge
"falling all over themselves" ?
Isn;t that one of the events at the Gerald Ford GOP Track Meet?ROFL!!!!
To: ElkGroveDan; *calgov2002; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Gophack; eureka!; Libertarianize the GOP; ...
Excellent summary.
I missed this in the traffic Friday and today was the first time I read it!
calgov2002:
To: Thud
Everything I've heard says the jury was pretty irate at Simon's firm. Have there been any articles that would detail and explain what was behind their unhappiness?
Their decision just doesn't seem to fit with the facts as given here!
Were they perhaps bought?
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