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Mark Steyn: Europe Is An Indulgence We Can't Afford
The Telegraph ^ | May 31, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/30/2005 2:27:08 PM PDT by quidnunc

The Eurofetishists can't seem to agree their line on this referendum business. On the one hand, the Guardian's headline writer was packing up and heading for the hills — "Europe is plunged into crisis" — and EU leaders warned that "Europe" might cease to function.

Oh, come on. We won't get that lucky.

On balance, Jean-Claude Juncker, the "president" of "Europe", seems closer to the mark in his now famous dismissal of the will of the people: "If it's a Yes, we will say 'on we go', and if it's a No we will say 'we continue'."

And if it's a Neither of the Above, he will say "we move forward". You get the idea. Confronted by the voice of the people, "President" Juncker covers his ears and says: "Nya, nya, nya, can't hear you!" There are several lessons worth learning from the French vote. The first is that the Junckers are a big part of the problem.

Only in totalitarian dictatorships does the ballot come with a pre-ordained correct answer. Yet President Juncker distilled the great flaw at the heart of the EU constitution into one straightforward sentence that cut through all the thickets of Giscard's unreadable verbiage. The American constitution begins with the words "We the people". The starting point for the EU constitution is: "We know better than the people."

After that, the rest doesn't matter: you can't do trickle-down nation-building. The British, who've written more constitutions for more real nations than anybody in history and therefore can't plead the same ignorance as President Juncker, should be especially ashamed of going along with this farrago of a travesty of a charade.

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To: glock rocks
"We need to increase the heat on the melting pot"

How do we do that?

21 posted on 05/30/2005 3:10:38 PM PDT by blueberry12
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To: quidnunc

Steyn Bump.

Triply Damning Bump!

"...this farrago of a travesty of a charade."


22 posted on 05/30/2005 3:11:04 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: quidnunc
Another one right on the mark for Steyn!


23 posted on 05/30/2005 3:11:45 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: quidnunc

Europe is a dead end as far world influence is concerned. It is a family of bickering neighbors, old worn out shoes, stifling attitudes to their own future, the last of the Old World and they can't rationalize their minor differences from country to country. They will become the next Third World Nation. Thank you, France.


24 posted on 05/30/2005 3:21:03 PM PDT by Ender@Game.now
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To: blueberry12

Start listening to Tancredo and Ron Paul would be a start.


25 posted on 05/30/2005 3:22:19 PM PDT by glock rocks (1-800-marrow2)
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To: blueberry12
How do we do that?

For starters, English is the official language. You immigrate, you expect to learn English. No special treatment of ethnic groups. Immigrants are expected to, encouraged to, even forced to... acculturate. Become Americans. Only.

Children are taught in school to be 'Americans'.

It will be a difficult task, because we have fallen so far behind the curve. Playing catch-up is not fun.
26 posted on 05/30/2005 3:25:41 PM PDT by TennCon
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To: Pokey78

<< the EU .... clinging to the theory that if you merge enough weak economies they add up to one global superpower .... mired itself in the creation of a centralised pseudo-state .... fallen behind America in every important long-term indicator ..... an indulgence .... Europe can't afford. The followers recognise that, even if the leaders don't. >>

One Soviet Union was quite clearly not enough of a lesson for these "leaders." For these feckless "creators" of Brussels/Strasbourg's Neo-Soviet!

Thanks for the post and the ping, Pokes.


27 posted on 05/30/2005 3:25:48 PM PDT by Brian Allen (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Pokey78

I wonder if anyone over there listens to Mark. I know they carry his columns on a regular basis, but is anyone over there reading this wonderful stuff and nodding their heads?


28 posted on 05/30/2005 3:26:48 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: quidnunc

"You get the idea. Confronted by the voice of the people, "President" Juncker covers his ears and says: "Nya, nya, nya, can't hear you!"

The reason the people - rather, the sheep - of Europe are under the thumb of twits like Juncker is becasue they have been disarmed - emasculated, so to speak.

I say, may God bless the 2nd amendment and the NRA.


29 posted on 05/30/2005 3:33:25 PM PDT by Pittsburg Phil
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To: Pokey78

Great Steyn!


30 posted on 05/30/2005 3:33:46 PM PDT by Gritty ("On balance, 'Europe' is an indulgence the real Europe can't afford - Mark Steyn)
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To: glock rocks

Before we break out the champagne over the French rejection ... it's well to remember that they voted against it because 1)They're beginning to hate Chirac and 2) It's generally felt that the EU Constitution pays too much attention to capitalist enterprise, and not enough to social programs.

http://cuppapolitics.blogspot.com/2005/05/non-not-surprise-in-france.html


31 posted on 05/30/2005 3:34:16 PM PDT by Tilly (I'm not paid to be stressed!!!)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks.


32 posted on 05/30/2005 3:40:08 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: quidnunc
Europeans can live without the EU. The Continent on the other hand cannot prosper in the total absence of freedom. This is the great lesson of the last century. Fortunately, just when Europe's elites want to consign it to the dustbin of history to further their parochial political interests, the people rise to put a stop to it. Mark Steyn is right this hysterical blather about Europe falling apart is greatly exaggerated. Whatever Europeans think about their destiny, it bears reminder Europe existed before the EU and will almost certainly survive a EU shorn of its grasping imperial pretensions. All in all, yesterday's vote in France was about Europe rediscovering the power of the vox populi. The Dutch are certain to put a flourish on this come Wednesday.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
33 posted on 05/30/2005 3:41:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nuconvert
And "Eutopian" - Mark Steyn's brilliant twist on the title of Sir Thomas More's classic, which incidentally, in Latin, means "Nowhere." Utopias do not exist in the real world and neither it may be astutely added, does Eutopia.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
34 posted on 05/30/2005 3:50:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: quidnunc

Another winner!


35 posted on 05/30/2005 3:54:36 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Pokey78
Full text Steyn bump.
Thanks, Pokey.
36 posted on 05/30/2005 4:03:54 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Ender@Game.now

> Europe is a dead end as far world influence is concerned.

France and Britain are nukes, and that is power. Period.


37 posted on 05/30/2005 4:09:45 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: quidnunc
It occurred to me that the French electorate is doing the same thing to Chiraq over this that the US electorate did to Clinton in 1994. The good news for chiraq is that his name was not on the ballot. Just as Bill CLinton's wasn't in 1994. it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if Chiraq didn't recover from this. His only serious opposition is Jacques Le Pen.
38 posted on 05/30/2005 4:18:31 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (McCain's home state is the newsroom of The New York Times! -Mark Steyn)
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To: quidnunc

The French rejected the Constitution because the original 11 members of the Union has expanded to 23. With the resultant loss of prestige and influence and the fact that they are dead set against Turkey's admission to the Union - where else could they go? Overall, it's good for the US. Now all we have to do is prevent those lefty feaks from regaining power in the USA and lend our support to the new Europe.


39 posted on 05/30/2005 4:24:04 PM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: Pokey78
Just say NO to the q flu.

Bumpity.

40 posted on 05/30/2005 4:26:44 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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