Posted on 11/01/2005 9:34:33 AM PST by neverdem
YUMA (AP) -- Yuma police investigating gun crimes will soon be able to track the gun more efficiently thanks to a federal weapons database.
Yuma police expect to be using eTrace, a database established by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, within the next few weeks. The system will let them quickly track the ownership history of guns used in crimes.
The old system could take days because it involves tracking a gun by starting at the manufacturer, then going through the distributor to the retailer and finally the end buyer, Detective Ross Nicolette said.
ATF recommends that all recovered guns be traced in the system, according to the agency's public affairs office. The database began as an ATF pilot program and was recently opened up to more law enforcement agencies.
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Information from: The Sun, http://www.yumasun.com
Also, Canada and Maryland are considering abandoning the same type of tracing database, due to the millions of dollars spent and the fact that in MD the system has never solved a crime. I believe it solved 2 in Canada at a cost of some $20 million.
huh?
Ok, just short of standing on top of my desk and screaming at the top of lungs........"ISN'T THAT ILLEAGLE!?!?!?!"
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"Also, Canada and Maryland are considering abandoning the same type of tracing database, due to the millions of dollars spent and the fact that in MD the system has never solved a crime. I believe it solved 2 in Canada at a cost of some $20 million."
Not sure about the Canadists, but wasn't the MD program their "ballistic fingerprinting" system? The one that had manufacturers including a fired case with each pistol shipped. The one that used a database so cumbersome it sometimes took days to winnow down to hundreds of matches. The one that, as stated, cost millions and solved not one crime. Yeah, that one!
Maryland, where the state motto is: "Manly deeds, womanly thoughts."
kinda pales against
"Sic Semper Tyrannis!"
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Newsletter from the International Association of Chiefs of Police [.pdf format]
That's what I was thinking, but it's not.
etrace bureau alcohol tobacco firearms
U.S. Department of JusticePresentersJohn R. FreemanU.S. Department of the TreasuryExtending GIS to Visualize Investigative Data: Some Practical Examples from the ATFTo improve crime gun tracing when serial numbers are missing, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco andFirearms (ATF) is experimenting with animated maps to analyze the spatial and temporal dimensions of suchgun recoveries. The first part of this presentation shows some of the initial products of those experiments.The second part discusses ways of illustrating firearms trafficking patterns on the printed page. ATF nowgeocodes information to non-geographic, matrix-like spaces, a technique that should work on the local aswell as national scale.
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This presentation provides a look at the state of that art and solicits suggestions for improving geocoding engines. Andreas M. OlligschlaegerTruNorth Data Systems, Inc.andEd StelyU.S. Department of the TreasuryAutomated Enterprise-Wide Geocoding: ATF eTrace and the Universal Geocoding RepositoryThis presentation examines challenges associated with automating the address matching and geocoding process at the enterprise level. Issues include database trigger-level address matching, Web-based address verification, address pre-processing, geodata warehousing, system architectures, code reusability, and regional variations in address standards. One example of enterprise-wide geocoding is the Universal Geocoding Repository being developed to support eTrace, a Web-based application of the Bureau ofAlcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to support trace requests for recovered firearms used in crimes.
Try $2 Billion and rising. No kidding.
I'll have to drop a line to my friend Nick Papageorgio, he's from Yuma
As mitchbert said, it is more like a hundred times that much.
Can't be illegal because the ATF can't legally keep a list of firearms owners.
You need to ping this one.
This is just for what's recovered at crime scenes. See comment# 8. The copy and paste got mangled somehow. That URL gummed up my computer.
ATF has tried this in the past and had their wrists slapped but with George Bush in the White House, they probably think he will protect them along with his Republican cronies.
I don't know why it is but I find myself constantly writing their when I mean there. I know the difference but keep doing it anywhay.
This is what we get for not putting a stop to the BATFE's shinnanigans before this.
Another good reason to buy guns from private owners whenever possible!!!!
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