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Science to ride gravitational waves
BBC News on line ^ | November 8, 2006 | By Jonathan Amos, BBC News science reporter, Hanover

Posted on 11/09/2005 1:41:45 PM PST by aculeus

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Two super-dense neutron stars circling each other [1] are expected to emit gravitational waves that move out at the speed of light At GEO 600, a high-powered laser [2] is fired at a 'beam splitter' - a semi-transparent mirror - which divides the beam down two vacuumed tunnels Mirrors [a+b] at the far ends bounce the light back; more mirrors [c+d] extend the measuring distance, and still more [e+f] are used to recycle the power and enhance the signal The light paths from the separate arms are recombined and sent to a photodetector. If a gravitational wave has passed though the observatory, it will have changed the length of the arms and the signal should be evident when analysed by computer

1 posted on 11/09/2005 1:41:46 PM PST by aculeus
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To: RadioAstronomer; PatrickHenry

graviton ping!


2 posted on 11/09/2005 1:45:15 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: aculeus

Corrected caption in reply #1 follows ...


HOW A LASER INTERFEROMETER CAN CATCH THE ELUSIVE WAVES


Two super-dense neutron stars circling each other [1] are expected to emit gravitational waves that move out at the speed of light At GEO 600, a high-powered laser [2] is fired at a 'beam splitter' - a semi-transparent mirror - which divides the beam down two vacuumed tunnels Mirrors [a+b] at the far ends bounce the light back; more mirrors [c+d] extend the measuring distance, and still more [e+f] are used to recycle the power and enhance the signal The light paths from the separate arms are recombined and sent to a photodetector. If a gravitational wave has passed though the observatory, it will have changed the length of the arms and the signal should be evident when analysed by computer


3 posted on 11/09/2005 1:46:29 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

It will be interesting to see just how fast these waves propogate. It may be faster than the speed of light.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 1:46:45 PM PST by keithtoo (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - Founding Member)
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To: aculeus

This won't tear a hole in the space-time continuium and end all life as we know it, will it?


5 posted on 11/09/2005 1:47:39 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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6 posted on 11/09/2005 1:49:02 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: aculeus; Right Wing Professor; RadioAstronomer; js1138; RightWhale; PatrickHenry; AndrewC

If you want to investigate Gravity waves, start with the tides of our oceans.

Carefully note the precise lag between the tide rising compared to the overhead orbital position of our Moon. That lag helps indicate the propagation speed of Gravity.

7 posted on 11/09/2005 1:49:50 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: aculeus
"If a gravitational wave has passed though the observatory, it will have changed the length of the arms and the signal should be evident when analysed by computer"

There is no "if." We already know that Gravity waves pass through your observatory, otherwise centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation would throw said observatory away from this planet.

8 posted on 11/09/2005 1:52:57 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: keithtoo
"It will be interesting to see just how fast these waves propogate. It may be faster than the speed of light."

The above experiment does not appear to be set up to record such a measurement, correct or not.

9 posted on 11/09/2005 1:53:58 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: AntiGuv

Thanks. Gives me a chance to crank up the cosmology ping machine ...


10 posted on 11/09/2005 1:54:57 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: aculeus

Looks like Michelson - Morley without the mercury bearing.

Looks like it would pick up any ground born vibration down to a fly landing or a gust of wind to small to feel. A fantastically noisy signal.


11 posted on 11/09/2005 1:55:02 PM PST by Iris7 ("Let me go to the house of the Father.")
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To: aculeus
Cheap shot incoming....

Any moving mass will send gravitational waves radiating outwards at the speed of light; but only truly massive bodies, such as exploding stars and coalescing neutron stars, can disturb space-time sufficiently for our technology to pick up the signal.

Alternate test subjects:


12 posted on 11/09/2005 1:55:10 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HUAC!)
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13 posted on 11/09/2005 1:56:15 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: aculeus

Bump to read again when I have more time to follow/understand the physics behind it.


14 posted on 11/09/2005 1:57:25 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: aculeus

Something else to keep up on. Thanks.


15 posted on 11/09/2005 1:57:51 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Southack
Carefully note the precise lag between the tide rising compared to the overhead orbital position of our Moon. That lag helps indicate the propagation speed of Gravity.

So you think that two points with the same longitude always have high tide at the same time?

16 posted on 11/09/2005 1:58:36 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (...hey, I could have been mean, and said robustus!)
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To: aculeus

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17 posted on 11/09/2005 1:59:33 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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"So you think that two points with the same longitude always have high tide at the same time?"

Absolutely not.

18 posted on 11/09/2005 2:00:19 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: aculeus
Reminiscent of the Michelson Interferometer.


19 posted on 11/09/2005 2:01:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Right Wing Professor; Southack

It has more to do with the propagation speed of water waves than it does gravity. Also, you got to take into account local geography and especially resonant cavities (Bay of Fundy, anyone?).


20 posted on 11/09/2005 2:05:32 PM PST by thulldud (The Democratic military vote is the REAL "Army of One".)
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