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Why some see colours in numbers
BBC News ^ | March 24, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 01/14/2006 9:26:42 AM PST by Frank T

US scientists say they can explain why some people 'see' colours when they look at numbers and letters. As many as one in 2,000 people has an extraordinary condition in which the five senses intermingle, called synaesthesia.

Some see colours when they hear music or words. Others 'taste' words.

The study in Neuron tracked the brain activity of people with the most common form and found peaks in areas involved with perceiving shapes and colours.

Cross-wiring

The University of California San Diego team said their findings lend support to the idea that the condition is due to cross-activation between adjacent areas of the brain involved with processing different sensory information.

This cross-wiring might develop, they believe, by a failure of the "pruning" of nerve connections between the areas as the brain develops while still in the womb.

For example, a person with synaesthesia might see red when they look at an ordinary figure '5' drawn in black ink on a white background because the red colour perception area of their brain is stimulated at the same time as the number recognition area.

The researchers conducted a series of experiments on volunteers with and without synaesthesia.

When the people without synaesthesia looked at letters and numbers only the brain areas involved with processing this information light up on brain activity scans.

In comparison, the people with synaesthesia had activity in colour perception regions as well.

Colour by numbers

Furthermore, some of the people with synaesthesia appeared to be better at 'seeing' colours than the others.

Those who had stronger colour perception had more activity in their colour perception brain areas.

Researcher Vilayanur Ramachandran said processes similar to synaesthesia might also underlie our general capacity for metaphor and be critical to creativity.

"It is not an accident that the condition is eight times more common among artists than the general population."

Dr Julia Simner, who has been studying synaesthesia at the University of Edinburgh along with colleagues at University College London, said the findings were supported by similar work looking at people who see colours when they hear sounds.

"Interestingly, we've recently analysed the letter-colour combinations of a very large number of people with synaesthesia and found that there are significant trends in their preferences.

"For example, people with synaesthesia tend to want A to be red, S to be yellow and Z to be black."

She said her research also revealed that people without synaesthesia have significant preferences for the colours of letters.

"Some of these choices were fairly obvious, such as 'O' being orange, but some were quite intriguing, and showed a similarity to those of people with synaesthesia."

Her findings are currently in press to appear in the journal Cognitive Neuropsychology.

Jennifer Green from the University of Cambridge, who has also been carrying out research in this area, said: "Some describe seeing the colours induced by letters and numbers as projected externally into space, while others report experiencing them internally, or in their 'mind's eye'.

"This research lends further support to empirical evidence suggesting that these varying descriptions represent actual differences in the way synaesthesia occurs in individuals."


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To: Cicero

Thanks for that, very much enjoyed it.

For those of you who've posted claiming to have synesthesia, listen to the music of Alexander Scriabin.

You'll 'see' what I mean.

For those who aren't, it's still quite a treat.


21 posted on 01/14/2006 10:02:19 AM PST by HassanBenSobar (Islam is the opiate of the people)
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To: yer gonna put yer eye out

Ya know I smell things every time I see Sen Teddy.


22 posted on 01/14/2006 10:03:03 AM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Frank T
This exact same thing happened to me one night in 1969 - I believe the effect was caused by something called lysergic diethylamide. I not only saw sounds - but they coalesced and formed the face of Alfred E. Newman!
23 posted on 01/14/2006 10:03:37 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Cicero

Alexander Scriabin, the mad Russian composer, may also have been a synaesthesiac. His "Prometheus, the Poem of Fire" tone poem featured a specially-designed organ that projected colors into the air when notes were struck. He associated different notes with different colors. His immense unrealized "Mysterium" was to have combined all the senses in a grand festival of perfumes, music, dancing, and feasting. Alas, he died before he could even really begin it.


24 posted on 01/14/2006 10:04:50 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Greatness is not appreciated until it is gone)
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To: Frank T
And I thought it was the LSD I took 35 years ago. Whew!

5.56mm

25 posted on 01/14/2006 10:05:06 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: yer gonna put yer eye out; Thinkin' Gal; aculeus
I knew I wasn't crazy! I see RED every time a liberal starts to TALK!

And I smell a skunk every time they speak!

26 posted on 01/14/2006 10:05:22 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Frank T

When I was in school buying folders and notebooks for classes I was always compelled to choose specific colors for the class. I just HAD to. I remember math was always yellow.


27 posted on 01/14/2006 10:06:46 AM PST by A knight without armor
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To: HassanBenSobar

You beat me to the Scriabin suggestion! You've won this round.


28 posted on 01/14/2006 10:07:35 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Greatness is not appreciated until it is gone)
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To: Frank T

I have gagaesthesia. When I see Ted Kennedy or Chuck Schumer I gag.


29 posted on 01/14/2006 10:09:16 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Frank T

I have gagaesthesia. When I see Ted Kennedy or Chuck Schumer I gag.


30 posted on 01/14/2006 10:09:18 AM PST by pabianice
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To: HassanBenSobar

Scriabin took it further than most, but I believe many other composers also associate certain keys with certain colors and moods.


31 posted on 01/14/2006 10:16:57 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Vaquero


Of course,the title has been passed on to

Mr.Methane .

http://www.mrmethane.com/


32 posted on 01/14/2006 10:17:34 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Cyclopean Squid

See #31.


33 posted on 01/14/2006 10:17:58 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mercat
Me too! My numbers don't have genders, but they have personalities. 9 is a tricky one, a 10 wannabe.

I also transcribe musical notes to a number system. I taught myself to play piano, numbered the keys and the notes in my Christmas song book. Worked well for me, until I joined band and then it drove my band directors crazy! After I learned to play the trumpet, he was so traumatized he let me learn about 6 other instruments on my own. Hmmm...maybe that's why I'm not a team player. Note to those wanting to try this at home: this system does not work for the violin!
34 posted on 01/14/2006 10:21:32 AM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe; yer gonna put yer eye out; Thinkin' Gal
I knew I wasn't crazy! I see RED every time a liberal starts to TALK!

And I smell a skunk every time they speak!

Darn. All I get is a gag reflex.

35 posted on 01/14/2006 10:22:16 AM PST by aculeus
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To: blu

The number 4 is young and male. Sort of a scamp. The number 3 is young and female. I don't remember much else about her. 9 was mystical to me, 8 old and female. I did't like 5, can't remember why.


36 posted on 01/14/2006 10:26:12 AM PST by Mercat (sometimes God calms the storm, sometimes he lets the storm rage and calms the child)
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To: Mercat
I've read that Einstein believed that mathematical equation could prove the existence of God. I wonder if he had a form of synaesthesia?
37 posted on 01/14/2006 10:36:01 AM PST by EequalsMC2
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To: Mercat

Yes! Yes!

I have always anthropomorphized (sp?) things. When I was little, I played with my crayons as others do dolls. Colors & numbers & letters always have had personalities & gender.

My husband has always thought I was more than a little weird.


38 posted on 01/14/2006 10:36:28 AM PST by TxGrandMom
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To: Frank T
Not all letters have obvious colors, but most do. The letter A is so strongly golden yellow (tinged with brown) that the month of August is, too, for no other reason than its name starts with A. (April is yellow, too, but more of a lemon yellow.)

S is a certain shade of green (darker than L), the same as September. November is the same battleship gray as N.

J is a dark shade of red (tho' different from that of R), and thus so is January, and you would think that June and July would be, too...but they're not. They're both a midnight green, so dark as to be nearly black. Moreover, the shape of the year does something odd in those months. Its ribbon departs from its undulating, slaloming helical shape, and forms a deep gouge, so narrow that May almost touches August, forming a tight angle with an exquisitely sharp corner. Somehow, when you're in that corner, everything seems locally smooth and flat, but viewed from the outside, it's all but hidden. Since my youth I've thought of the 4th of July as residing "in the dark corner of summer".

39 posted on 01/14/2006 11:25:57 AM PST by Physicist
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To: aculeus; Lijahsbubbe; yer gonna put yer eye out; dighton; martin_fierro
Darn. All I get is a gag reflex.

Yesterday I was nosing around a science supply website, looking through the dissection kits and related products (frogs, earthworms, etc.). I noticed a faint but distinct smell of formaldehyde (a little goes a long way)... a "fond" memory from my high school biology class.

Smell and memory are interconnected, but I always associated it in that order (i.e. a scent triggers a memory).

In this case, the memory triggered the smell. Weird. Fortunately, the formaldehyde went away when I read the description... the creatures were preserved in odorless propylene glycol.

40 posted on 01/14/2006 11:28:21 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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