Posted on 01/20/2006 6:30:48 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
In a speech before a Princeton audience of about 800 on January 18th , Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator from New York, had a few words of scorn for the Bush administration's handling of the Iran nuke situation.
So, on one hand, we "lost critical time in dealing with Iran" because Bush tried to allow the diplomatic process undertaken by the Europeans and Iran to attempt to work itself out (wasn't it the left who claimed Bush went to war without using diplomacy in 2001?). She says we cannot "outsource" our negotiations to others (nice usage of a meaningless buzz word there). Yet, on the other hand, she insists in the self-same paragraph that we must have "more support ... by China and Russia" and that we "must move as quickly as feasible for sanctions in the United Nations" (seems like "outsourcing" to me!).
Hillary feels she has the room in her campaign to sound like a tough, military supporting, hawk, ignoring the anti-military left completely. Now, ordinarily, one would assume that a presumptive Democratic Party candidate for president would have to lock up the base before going on the stump and pretending they support the military. And the Democrat's base is the anti-military, far left.
But, Hillary's tactic is more interesting. She isn't making the slightest attempt to ally the fears of the far left. She is forging ahead and aiming solely for the middle of the road voter. With her hawkish stance she is trying to gain the support of both the conservative Democrats and those only loosely aligned with the GOP.
So, what about the leftist, Democratic base, those Democrats that hate the military, or at least hate the use of it? How can she go forward without their support?
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Nader's a crybaby. When he cost Gore the election, Nader lost it on national TV. He demonstrated that he really wanted Gore to win the election all along. Somehow, he thought that by running as an independent, he'd help Gore get elected.
Nader's a crybaby. When he cost Gore the election, Nader lost it on national TV. He demonstrated that he really wanted Gore to win the election all along. Somehow, he thought that by running as an independent, he'd help Gore get elected.
I'm not convinced Hillary will even survive the Democratic primaries.
Being strong on defense is poison for Democratic politicians today. Liberals went along with Kerry in 2004 because they thought he was "electable." Many, and I mean many, see this as the reason for their recent defeats. They've drawn the wrong conclusion and are very inclined to stick to their guns on weakening American security.
In the unlikely event Hillary survives the primaries in 2008, she'll be badly damaged, and then will have to contend with getting Nadered by somebody. Right now in January 2006, it doesn't look like it is in the cards for Senator Clinton.
They can trot out Kucinich again but that will backfire this time. Isn't it ironic that a Clinton will lose votes to a third party, ala Ross Perot ?
That said, No one can really make a case, of how exactly, Hillary can or would do better in an election then a generic democratic candidate.
Strange thing is, her political thinking and strategy isn't bad, its just a decade late.
I can not fathom her drawing more then a small tiny handfull of votes more then any other generic whatever democratic candidate.
And yet, some freepers think she has magical mystical powers of mind control that will force them to vote for her, like she has supernatural abilities.
The hard left knows she is lying to secure the votes of the wishy washy "center". They know she means none of it and would govern [rule] from the far left, if elected.
So yes, they will still vote for her. With one caveat, the appearance of a hard left 3rd party candidate, like a greenie, could siphon off a couple of percentage points from the career wackos. Which would probably be the difference.
The so-called center is populated by voters that believe what they see on any given day. A disturbing number of them will take her statements at face value, i.e. as the truth.
All things considered, I believe she will have a net gain with this strategy.
And the wildcard is the republican nominee.
One undeclared candiate for POTUS on the democratic side who is going to run to her left is Feingold.
She may or may not care, but the kook wing of the party absolutly loves him, he comes across like a decalf version of howard dean gone sane.
P.S. I just showed my wife my tagline. It's gonna be a WONDERFUL NIGHT TONIGHT!!!
When the time comes, Hillary will go left of Murtha and mabie even Dean (pandering to the base).
You are right...
Can you imagine taking a bite out of old crusty? ; )
I think Hillary's greatest disadvantage is that she is not a smooth politician like Bill is and never will be. She knows it too; that's why she went on a "listening tour" of New York.
Fiengold has a better chance than Hillary, but domestically, Fiengold is far left of Hillary, and really far to the left on foreign policy.
She is one of them; however, what they do not know is that she will turn on them just as she does most everyone else.
Most of my friends and all of my extended family are Dems in varying shades of liberalness.
The consensus among them is that Hillary can't win the primary. This surprised me, but none of them seem to trust her.
Maybe she won't get the nomination. This will be a serious disapointment to me since the entertainment value of Hill running will be hugh.
The only differance between them, is that Feingold is honest about what he believes and Hillary lies through her teeth.
The DUmmie and Daily Kos and Moveon folks love his policies but also love his rhetoric.
Alot of them are just to stupid to realize that Hillary is just lying and saying what she has to say so that she doesn't look like a kook, while Feingold isnt afraid of being labeled a liberal.
If Barbra Boxer endorses him, Hillary is done in the primaries.
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