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Claiming status as cigar bar (Some businesses seeking exemption from smoke ban)
Rocky Mountain News ^ | August 3, 2006 | Ivan Moreno

Posted on 08/27/2006 6:24:03 PM PDT by BulletBobCo

Only a handful of businesses can continue to allow people to smoke indoors, despite efforts of some bars and strip clubs to exempt themselves from a statewide smoking ban, a state representative said Wednesday. Rep. Mark Larson, R-Cortez, said a memorandum issued this week by the Office of Legislative Legal Services spelled out the requirements to qualify as a cigar bar, a status some businesses are claiming in order to allow patrons to continue smoking.

Larson said he requested the legislative research after he heard that two bars in Montrose and one in Durango were still allowing smoking because they claimed cigar-bar status.

To qualify as a cigar bar, a business needs to prove at least 5 percent or $50,000 of its revenue came from the sale of tobacco products during the year ending Dec. 31, 2005, according to the "Colorado Clean Indoor Air Act" passed earlier this year.

The 5 percent or $50,000 had to come strictly from tobacco sales - not including cigarettes from vending machines - "and the rental of on-site humidors," the memo issued on Monday emphasized.

The Legal Services office said the emphasis was added to make clear to businesses that part of their 5 percent or $50,000 also came from humidors, not just tobacco sales. Otherwise, businesses would "create a loophole contrary to the clearly stated purposes of the Act."

The exemption was meant strictly for about a half-dozen cigar bars across the state who have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars on humidors to keep cigars at high quality, Larson said.

"That's it in a nutshell. (Cigar bars) were genuinely in the business of selling cigar tobacco," he said.

Strip clubs in the metro area that continue to allow smoking probably don't qualify as cigar bars, he said. "I know strip clubs are hot and steamy, but they don't have humidors," he said.

Shotgun Willie's, the Diamond Cabaret, and PT's Show Club at 1601 W. Evans Ave., have humidors, but that doesn't convince Larson that they're cigar bars.

But John Soto, a spokesman for VCG Holdings Corp., which owns the Diamond Cabaret, said the club easily met the financial threshold to be classified as a cigar bar.

"We feel very confident," Soto said. "It's not like we just barely made it; we made it by leaps and bounds."

Larson said the cigar-bar status is a "self-exempting" provision in the law, meaning any business could claim they are a cigar bar "until somebody challenges them."

In Durango's case, the district attorney's office told Orio's Roadhouse to stop smoking, and they have, Larson said. Now, the bar may choose to go to court and ask for a judge's interpretation of the law, he said.

They likely won't be the last to seek a judge's ruling as officials continue to weigh what constitutes a cigar bar.

"It may take a while to sort out," said Gene Hook, a spokesman with the Denver Department of Environmental Health. Hook said his office is still trying to figure out who is in compliance with the cigar-bar exemption and how to monitor and enforce violations.

"It's going to be interesting," he said.

morenoi@RockyMountainNews.com or 303-892-2895


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: cigar; pufflist
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1 posted on 08/27/2006 6:24:05 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: martin_fierro

Ping


2 posted on 08/27/2006 6:25:05 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

Telling the old lady I'm going to the cigar bar will take on a whole new meaning.


3 posted on 08/27/2006 6:27:35 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Amityschild; Atchafalaya; BulletBobCo; CJ Wolf; Clemenza; clintonh8r; coconutt2000; condi2008; ...
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4 posted on 08/27/2006 6:28:33 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: BulletBobCo

Smoking bans are ridiculous. On one hand, the government argues against smoking--then they go ahead and promote it because they want the tax revenue from cigarette sales.

Leave it up to the business if they want to ban smoking or not.


5 posted on 08/27/2006 6:28:48 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: martin_fierro

A co-worker told me that this is what the American Legion where he hangs out is trying to do.


6 posted on 08/27/2006 6:30:44 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: martin_fierro
Coming soon!!

Cigars Planet

7 posted on 08/27/2006 6:32:34 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: All
I LOVE CIGARS....

May we all be able to smoke them and enjoy a great steak dinner and wine at the same time----everywhere!!!

NordP

8 posted on 08/27/2006 6:35:56 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: NordP

I just grabbed a box of Gran Habano Corojo #5. Love them. The A Fuente Chateau is anothert one that I love.


9 posted on 08/27/2006 6:47:11 PM PDT by Holicheese (MMMMM fried clams.)
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To: BulletBobCo

I bet within 10 years there is a total ban on smoking outside of your home. Tabacco sales will be rare.


10 posted on 08/27/2006 6:52:51 PM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: Holicheese
I am smoking a CUESTA REY NO. 1884 for tonight's smoke.


11 posted on 08/27/2006 6:55:45 PM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: BulletBobCo

I'm not really schooled in the cigar field. My favorite stogies are It'saboys.


12 posted on 08/27/2006 6:59:56 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Holicheese

Excellent choice. I'm a BIG fan of Padrones--square and fabulous!!!


13 posted on 08/27/2006 7:00:04 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: NordP

I've been smoking A Fuente 8-5-8 and they are great.


14 posted on 08/27/2006 7:03:16 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: All
hmmm!

NordP

15 posted on 08/27/2006 7:04:07 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: BulletBobCo

My bro is a "tobaccanist" and would definitely agree with your choice - one of his regular smokes. Also a big Ashton fan he is.


16 posted on 08/27/2006 7:05:16 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: BulletBobCo
Wow - great home page. Those are some awesome pics!

I was BORN in Colorado... ;-)

17 posted on 08/27/2006 7:07:09 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: devane617

I have not tried that one, but I am writing it down. Stupidly, I never kept a cigar journal. Over the years I have had some super cigars and don't remember what they were.
Someone also suggested try a cigar with different cuts because they will give you a different flavor, heat and draw.
I am a big fan of the punch but a V cut is also nice on the La Gloria Cubana Serie R #4. I have found that the #5 and #6 are just way too big.
I am lucky, my fiance is very cigar friendly.


18 posted on 08/27/2006 7:08:15 PM PDT by Holicheese (MMMMM fried clams.)
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To: BulletBobCo; Fintan
Fintan. Your cigar is needed on this thread J
19 posted on 08/27/2006 7:09:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Holicheese
"I am lucky, my fiance is very cigar friendly."

As all good women should be :-)

20 posted on 08/27/2006 7:10:02 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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