Posted on 10/16/2006 5:09:46 AM PDT by Tribune7
I just received this press release. I want to encourage conversation here about its accuracy and significance.
PRESS RELEASE
Wednesday, October 11th was an historic day in the life of the European Parliament.
Polish member of the European Parliament, Maciej Giertych, retired head of the Genetics Department of the Polish Academy of Science, and father of Polish Deputy Prime Minister, Roman Giertych, introduced a public seminar on the General Theory of Evolution to fellow MEPs.
Professor Giertych questioned the value of teaching a continually falsified hypothesis - macroevolution - to students throughout Europe, as well as pointing out its lack of usefulness in regard to scientific endeavour.
Professor Giertych introduced the subject by relating how his children had returned home from school having been taught about the theory of evolution. They were told that the proof of macroevolution - the common ancestry of biological life - was to be found in the science of genetics. This was news to Professor Giertych who had spent his life working at the highest level of genetic research. He revealed to the meeting that such proof does not exist in genetics, only disproof.
This was reinforced by the speech of Professor Emeritus Joseph Mastropaolo who had travelled from the USA to participate in the Brussels hearing. He explained that the biological sciences offer no empirical proof of macroevolution, just insurmountable problems. The theory of evolution consists merely of interpretational evidences which by their very nature could be interpreted in many different ways. He told the audience that the theory, after more than 150 years, still lacked any empirical proof.
Dr. Hans Zillmer, a German Palaeontologist and member of the New York Academy of Sciences, told the meeting that the fossil record holds no proof for evolution theory either. Instead of showing gradual change from one species to another, as is often claimed in the classroom, it actually reveals the stasis and stability of life forms.
Finally, Dr. Guy Berthault spoke to the audience about the results of his empirical research programmes concerning the deposition of sediments. Contrary to the established idea that the geologic column was formed slowly over millions of years, horizontal layer by layer, he revealed that his ongoing research proves empirically that the whole column could have been laid down in a matter of months. His research, which has been published in journals of the National Academy of Sciences in France, Russia and China, shows that continuous deposition of water borne sediments sort themselves mechanically and a simple change in current velocity cause strata to build upon each other whilst still progressing in the direction of flow.
In opposition to the existing notion of sediment deposition that is generally taught, Dr. Berthault revealed that his empirical experimental results clearly show that parts of undisturbed lower strata are actually younger than parts of higher strata laid down in a continuous flow.
This means that fossils can not be dated by the strata that they are found in, nor the rocks dated by the type of fossils found in them and makes nonsense of the geologic column as it is currently taught.
Amongst those helping to organise the historic seminar were Dr. Dominique Tassot, Director of Centre dEtude et de Prospectives sur la Science (C.E.P). C.E.P. is an organisation consisting of 700 French speaking scientists, intellectuals and representatives of other professions, all of whom oppose evolutionary theory on scientific grounds.
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Contact:
C.E.P. - s.cep@wanadoo.fr
Information: research conducted by Dr. G. Berthault
http://geology.ref.ac/berthault
Attachment for general information:
Recent interview with Dr. Tassot - August 22nd, 2006.
Not evolution, as Darwin postulated it, but quantum jumps due to mutations, most of which were useless or detrimental to the individual, until a change in environmental conditions makes the mutation a desirable trait.
One of the wild cards in this deck is the "dominant" and "recessive" gene pairs that can keep a mutated gene in play for hundreds of generations before it becomes a factor in adaptation. THEN the Darwinian "survival of the fittest" kicks in.
But this still does not take into account differential counts of chromosome pairs that identify a species. There is no way "evolution" can account for these changes. Again, there has to be some mutagenic factor involved. Like, a chromosome replication that does NOT involve the entire set of chromosome pairs. This can be induced in the laboratory, by careful selection of chromosomes and injection into a developing cell, but how would it occur naturally?
Interesting that the article references many alleged claims of disproof, yet offers no actual examples of how the fossil or genetic record "disproves" the theory of evolution.
Fever dreams.
I want to know what "The General Theory of Evolution" actually is. Apparently it also includes the geology of sedimentary deposition if you read the article. That will be news to hundreds of thousands of professional geologists, worldwide.
If a retired Polish geneticist has a genetic disproof of evolution I'm surprised that he doesn't publish it and win a richly deserved Nobel Prize. Likewise Dr Guy Berthault should make billions from his apparent knowledge that all geologists, paleontologists and mineralogists are wrong about rock formation. With his superior understanding he should easily beat the mineral and oil companies to field finds, and become the richest man on earth.
Coming from Europe its sad to discover that we have these cretins here too. I wonder how many of the 700 French Speaking evolution rejectors have relevant credentials. I'm betting less than 20.
I was merely trying to point out that evolution, as a vehicle for origination of species, simply does not work.
And while most mutations are useless, or even lethal, that does not mean that the information in the reformulated gene is destroyed, or less, than existed in the original form. It is merely different, and will present a different aspect, as the organism grows to maturity.
And no, I am not trying to defend evolution in any way. I was trying to determine what OTHER mechanism could explain, at least a little more to my satisfaction, how the various species came into existence.
Because when every other explanation is exhausted, the one, or few that remain, have to have some semblance of the truth.
Just because oxygen is invisible to our eyes, does not mean it does not exist. (That was an analogy, in case somebody was going to be WAY too literal.)
Take a look at the precise nature of the chromosome difference between chimps and humans and the problem resolves itself. Two of the chimp chromosomes are laid end-to-end in one human chromosome, the result of a historic accident. That chromosome even has in it, in the middle, at the place where the information from chimp-equivalent-2p and chimp-equivalent-2q join, a molecular marker *usually* seen at the end of a chromosome.
HOOAH!
Actually, doctors today do use leeches. For example, if a finger is sewed back on to a hand, the doctor will attach a leech to the tip of the finger so as to encourage the blood to resume flowing into the previously disattached finger.
This reminds me of Amway...
Here's a good one!
When the world was finished, there were as yet no people, but the Bald Eagle was chief of the animals. He saw that the world was incomplete and decided to make some human beings. So he took some clay and modeled the figure of a man and laid him on the ground. At first he was very small but he grew rapidly until he reached normal size. But as yet he had no life; he was still asleep. Then the Bald Eagle stood and admired his work. "It is impossible," he said, "that he should be left alone; he must have a mate." So he pulled out a feather and laid it beside the sleeping man. Then he left them and went off a short distance, for he knew that a woman was being formed from the feather. But the man was still asleep and did not know what was happening. When the Bald Eagle decided that the woman was about completed, he returned, awoke the man by flapping his wings over him and flew away.The man opened his eyes and stared at the woman. "What does this mean?" he asked. "I thought I was alone!" Then the Bald Eagle returned and said with a smile, "I see you have a mate! Have you had intercourse with her?" "No," replied he man, for he and the woman knew nothing about each other. Then the Bald Eagle called to Coyote who happened to be going by and said to him, "Do you see that woman? Try her first!" Coyote was quite willing and complied, but immediately afterwards lay down and died. The Bald Eagle went away and left Coyote dead, but presently returned and revived him. "How did it work?" said the Bald Eagle. "Pretty well, but it nearly kills a man!" replied Coyote. "Will you try it again?" said the Bald Eagle. Coyote agreed, and tried again, and this time survived. Then the Bald Eagle turned to the man and said, "She is all right now; you and she are to live together.
Related but different.
Easily the most accurate depiction of the human condition I have yet read.
Why, has Dembski become that much of an intellectual embarrassment to the Creationists already?
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