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One Climber Found Dead in Second Snow Cave on Mount Hood
FNC ^ | December 17, 2006

Posted on 12/17/2006 4:26:48 PM PST by Kaslin

HOOD RIVER, Ore. — The body of one of the three climbers who have been missing for 10 days on Mount Hood was discovered in a snow cave late Sunday afternoon.

Rescuers dropped search teams near the mountain's 11,239-foot summit from a CH-47 Chinook helicopter flown by pilots who had served in Afghanistan and Iraq. The pararescue team members scaled 300 feet down the nearly vertical face of the northeastern face of the mountain to reach a snow cave that was spotted earlier in the day.

The team discovered two ice axes, some rope and a sleeping bag in the cave. The body was discovered in a second cave nearby, officials said.

There has been no word from climbers Kelly James, Brian Hall or Jerry "Nikko" Cooke since Dec. 10 when James made a distress call to family members. A cell phone tower picked up a signal from James' cell phone on Tuesday that appeared to have originated from the vicinity of the snow cave.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: climber; kellyjames; mounthood; mthood; oregon; rip
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To: Jay777
I know you didn't ask me why I put the article in breaking news. I figured since I did not see it posted the monitor would take it out once I put it in, and I have no problem with it.

I have noticed that there are certain monitors who will pull a thread if you try to post a breaking news article that is not click able yet. Why they don't wait is beyond me

41 posted on 12/17/2006 5:06:47 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Issaquahking

Holy smoke, that is beyond amazing, unreal. You would think at an altitude like that it must be like flying in a vacuum for a helicopter. What the hell are they using to find enough air molecules for the lift? A plane compensates though speed, but a freggin` helicopter can only go so fast.. Unless it had some movement akin to a jet? Is that pic the actual helicopter?? Impossible!


42 posted on 12/17/2006 5:08:56 PM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: Issaquahking

Holy sh*t, I missed this; "Landing AND take off"? No way, noooooo way! Sorry, I don`t believe it.


43 posted on 12/17/2006 5:12:11 PM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: Jay777

Seems as though FR is caught up in a morass of technicalities here, very few of which are understandable to the average freeper. Very, very cryptic and frustrating.


44 posted on 12/17/2006 5:12:17 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Sir_Ed
" .. that was so bad my hands and arms didn't work, and I couldn't speak properly .. "

I've been that kind of cold ... and I remembered, the next day, having read Jack London's "To Build a Fire" back in Junior High.

Frightening.

45 posted on 12/17/2006 5:13:14 PM PST by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: Screamname

It's real! Never under estimate the human spirit. Pray that the two guys on the mountain are rescued tomorrow.


46 posted on 12/17/2006 5:14:37 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Issaquahking

you sure put out quite a few $$$$$$ figures. how much is the cost of a searchers life worth in the event he is killed looking for somebody lost up on the mountain?


47 posted on 12/17/2006 5:14:43 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Kaslin
Some expert said the other day on FNC that is actually safer to climb in the winter instead the summer, because you don't have the falling rocks

I guess it depends where your climbing. The guys that did the first winter ascent of Denali recorded temperatures of 148 degrees below zero.

I don't think I'd want either rocks falling or temperature falling.

48 posted on 12/17/2006 5:15:33 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: frankjr

"How much has been spent to find these guys (who ignored weather warnings)?"

Why don't you make that tonight's homework, and come back when you have an answer. Just for fun, give us the per capita taxpayer spending for Oregon and the U.S. military support.

Have fun.

By the way, there were no severe weather warnings when they went up last Thursday.


49 posted on 12/17/2006 5:18:16 PM PST by angkor ("Bush needs to decide that the bad guys are going to die" Podhoretz, NY Post, 12/5/06)
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To: jgorris
Why not keep both axes?? I'd cetainly never give up my axe at that point.

Well I guess they could've been climbing with two axes each and the only gear ditched belonged to the guy who stayed behind in the cave. Unclear from this report exactly what kind of axes were found, etc. For steeper ice routes, it is common to use two axes.

I once rode out a storm in a cave, but we were very well provisioned and rescue was not an option. That adventure is here: St Elias

50 posted on 12/17/2006 5:19:06 PM PST by jgorris
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To: angkor

Lots of Monday morning quarterbacking going on, huh?


51 posted on 12/17/2006 5:19:14 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: bobby.223
If I was in Oregon, I'd drive to the mountain and do whatever I could to help. No charge, it's about freedom of choice, along with it, comes a cost to being part of the group.

I've never had S & R have to come and look for me, and I like it that way. But if they ever do, and regardless of how I'm found, it will be because they're are other people familiar to the same activities we participate in.
52 posted on 12/17/2006 5:25:08 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Issaquahking; dk/coro; taxesareforever; frankjr

In 2003 NPS spent 00.13 percent (.0013) of its budget on *all* SAR activities. Using Yosemite as a benchmark, climbing incidents were less than 1/4 that of hiking rescues.

And as Issaquahking pointed out, mountain rescue teams are non-profit 501(c)3 organizations and typically 100 percent volunteer. They do not charge for their services.


53 posted on 12/17/2006 5:26:08 PM PST by angkor
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To: frankjr

"Thank God we have the Government as our Nanny.
Darwin may have been on to something."

Remember that when when you engage in some risk-free auto driving and a drunk driver totals your car.

"Nancy" will happily send an ambulance to your service.


54 posted on 12/17/2006 5:29:16 PM PST by angkor
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To: frankjr
Sure your not from DU?
55 posted on 12/17/2006 5:31:12 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Screamname; Issaquahking

"You would think at an altitude like that it must be like flying in a vacuum for a helicopter"

I believe it was during the infamous 1996 Everest expedition (Rob Hall et al) that the Nepali Army sent a Huey up to 21,000 feet for a rescue at Camp 1.

At the time it was the highest heli rescue ever. Apparently very dodgey maneuverability.


56 posted on 12/17/2006 5:33:26 PM PST by angkor
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To: Jay777

Admin. got up on the wrong side of the rock?


57 posted on 12/17/2006 5:34:01 PM PST by em2vn
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To: bobby.223

"how much is the cost of a searchers life worth in the event he is killed"

I hate to go through this ignorant discussion again, but...

The mountain rescue teams are all volunteer. They're not public servants. They take time from their jobs to do mountain rescue. They are climbers. They are mountaineers.

Climbing is every bit about comraderie as anything else. It's about pride in the sport. It has a code.

I'm not going to explain what the code it. But one element is the strong ethic to help climbers in need whenever possible.

I know you won't get it. So there's no point pressing the issue.


58 posted on 12/17/2006 5:37:29 PM PST by angkor
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To: ican'tbelieveit

"Lots of Monday morning quarterbacking going on, huh?"

There is a whole alien mindset that freaks out when a climbing rescue take place.


59 posted on 12/17/2006 5:39:20 PM PST by angkor
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To: angkor

Amazing stories on the cable news tonight from others who survived weeks on Mt Hood in the past. Both stories I have heard are from Christians talking about how their faith carried them through.


60 posted on 12/17/2006 5:44:06 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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