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C-span 2 Misreporting Senate Iraq Vote
C-Span 2 | 2/17/2007 | C-Span 2

Posted on 02/17/2007 12:15:00 PM PST by Stajack

As of 2PM CST, C-Span 2 is running the following caption on TV: "SENATE REJECTS MOTION TO DEBATE IRAQ RESOLUTION, 56-34".


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To: Stajack
In my opinion, CSPAN and it family of radio and TV networks, is the absolute definition of fairness.

In reality, the headline is absolutely correct. The cloture vote was to end debate for rules for bringing the senate resolution to the floor. The resolution has not been debated on the senate floor, and that what a 60+ vote would have brought.
21 posted on 02/17/2007 1:45:49 PM PST by DalcoTX
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To: Bobbisox

I agree. The candidate I want is Duncan Hunter! :)


22 posted on 02/17/2007 1:47:15 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Stajack

What I don't understand is 56 votes is 62% (more than 3/5) of members voting. That should have been enough votes, I think.


23 posted on 02/17/2007 1:48:19 PM PST by DalcoTX
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To: DalcoTX

It takes 60 votes in the Senate to end debate. It's the Senate own rules.


24 posted on 02/17/2007 1:51:31 PM PST by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: DalcoTX

CLOTURE requires 3/5 of the Senators DULY CHOSEN and SWORN not just 3/5 of those present 3/5 of 100 is 60 no matter how many show up for work..


25 posted on 02/17/2007 1:54:10 PM PST by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne; Rodm

Thanks for the replies. I had always heard it was 3/5, but I went and looked it up.


26 posted on 02/17/2007 2:03:13 PM PST by DalcoTX
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To: Stajack

Does this mean that the troop surge will go forward?


27 posted on 02/17/2007 2:04:58 PM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: Bobbisox
.....I want a MAN with balls enough to stand against the Congress when he is right.

Think Rudy !!

28 posted on 02/17/2007 2:05:39 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: angcat

Nothing the House or Senate does, short of cutting off war funds, will stop the troop surge.


29 posted on 02/17/2007 2:06:15 PM PST by DalcoTX
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To: Stajack

It's funny, but I don't recall that headline when they 'Rats were blocking all of the President's judicial appointments.
Lying scum traitors.


30 posted on 02/17/2007 2:14:01 PM PST by JerseyDvl (STOP - Hildabeast, Shrillary, Hitlery, Billary, Her Thighness, Sen. Cankles, Dukakis-in-Drag)
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To: Stajack

C-Span has become nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Marxist New York Times. It is totally unwatchable.

And brainwashed rats call in on every line. "I'm a Republican, but......."


31 posted on 02/17/2007 2:15:43 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Stajack

FNC also misreported it with the headline being something similar to that. I don't remember the exact wording, but it definitely implied that debate was stifled when in fact the opposite was true.


32 posted on 02/17/2007 2:20:47 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: firebrand
Senate Rejects Renewed Effort to Debate Iraq

This is a crock. There is no way this many organizations are making the same simultaneous mistake.

This a coordinated lie.

From the American Thinker Blog:


February 13, 2007

News scam

letter to the editor
CBS is being used to broadcast false information to the public. Mr. Bob Schieffer claimed on Sunday's program "Face the Nation" that Republicans "cut off debate" on Iraq Senate resolutions. When his guest Mr. Trent Lott informed him that this was not the case, Mr. Schieffer countered that he was reporting what all the other media outlets were reporting, and "they can't all be wrong."


Mr. Schieffer claims to be a reporter, not a repeater, so I suggest he investigate the meaning of the word "cloture" in a dictionary, and then investigate which party proposed a motion of cloture in the US Senate last week, and which party voted to defeat it. Yes, they can indeed all be wrong: CBS is broadcasting a blatant untruth.

I demand that CBS investigate how this inversion of the facts got started, and why a CBS journalist in effect accused a guest of lying on the air for pointing it out. If CBS believes that journalism consists of echoing the reporting of others without question, to the point that its employees will claim on-air that a person who was actually involved in the event knows less than the sources it is repeating from, then this is scandalous.


I understand full well that the rules of the Senate are complex, and that on occasion the overt actions of various parties may be at odds with their actual intent, for example, opposing a resolution that one supports for the purpose of being able to ask for it to be amended and voted on again. I also understand that reasonable people may differ in their interpretation of even apparently simple events. Unfortunately, in this case the statements of Mr. Schieffer and others at CBS have been absolute and without qualification - "Republicans stopped debate". Given that cloture is clearly defined as the cutting-off of debate, and that Democrats proposed and voted for cloture, and Republicans voted against it, the statements of Mr. Schieffer are demonstrably untrue. He is either not telling the truth, or he has outsourced serious investigation to others who are themselves not telling the truth.

I look forward to seeing this deception,and the motivations behind it, exposed.

33 posted on 02/17/2007 2:27:51 PM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen, SnowFlake, and Eeevil Doer.)
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To: Stajack

I was watching Ted Kennedy speaking prior to the vote and you can just see him coming so close to having a stroke right there on the floor. I think we all should pray.


34 posted on 02/17/2007 2:43:01 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: sergeantdave
C-Span has become nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Marxist New York Times. It is totally unwatchable. And brainwashed rats call in on every line. "I'm a Republican, but......."

I couldn't agree more, sergeantdave.

35 posted on 02/17/2007 2:56:52 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: DalcoTX

Cool


36 posted on 02/17/2007 3:09:39 PM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

"...you can just see him coming so close to having a stroke right there on the floor. .."

I've been curious about that. How can someone so fat, so explosive, so ranting mad dog crazy still be alive? His blood pressure must be 400/200. There should be blood clots squirting from his eyeballs. Everytime he opens his mouth some piece of clogged artery should pop onto the floor.

I bet he's really a robot. Nobody that fat and red-faced should be alive. It's medically impossible.

I'd like to post a close-up of his face and invite doctors and nurses on FR to speculate on his blood pressure, the condition of his bourbon-soaked liver, whether or not his blood pressure could power an aircraft carrier and if there's a closet filled somewhere with Ted Kennedy clones.

It would be a hoot.


37 posted on 02/17/2007 3:35:43 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Stajack

C-SPAN1 = Communists-Socialists Pandering *ssholes network #1

C-SPAN2 = Communists-Socialists Pandering *ssholes network #2

The Media....Tools of, by, and for....ALL of our enemies!!!!

:-(


38 posted on 02/17/2007 3:41:07 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
I stand with my President. I will stand with him even if I am the last to stand.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You got a raw boned Vermonter right beside you! And packin'!

39 posted on 02/17/2007 3:57:14 PM PST by Candor7 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Bobbisox

I'm with you, Bobbisox!!!! YOU GO GAL!


40 posted on 02/17/2007 4:09:55 PM PST by nfldgirl (ALL AMERICAN YOUNG FEMALE FREEPER!)
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