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Is there global warming 'truth'?
Toronto Sun ^ | 2007-03-31 | Salim Mansur

Posted on 04/02/2007 7:15:02 AM PDT by Clive

There is little disagreement in the media that Al Gore is greatly responsible for bringing the subject of man-made global warming into the public glare. Gore has been on a roll since the Academy Awards gave his film, An Inconvenient Truth, the prize for the best documentary of the year, and it will not be a surprise if the Norwegian Nobel committee awards him the peace prize for his efforts in the push to end man-made global warming.

Science and politics have co-existed in an uneasy relationship for a very long time. The reason is simple. In science "truth" is meant to be independent of human preferences and its discovery occurs through the scientific method of conjectures and refutations.

In politics "truth" is often a claim made on the basis of some authority -- church, charismatic leader, majority opinion in a democracy -- and selective evidence.

Politicians since Archimedes in ancient Greece have sought advice of scientists in the making of public policy. Yet there is a difference between open and closed societies in how scientific advice is sought and given, and in protecting the delicate balance between science and society.

The Gore phenomenon in an open society has placed science and politics at odds in a manner that is somewhat new. We are observing how celebrity status of a politician (or a former politician) in the media may bend the rules of science to serve a particular public policy.

Gore insists the causal connection between human activity and global warming is proven by consensus, and there are many scientists who agree.

But there is another body of scientific opinion that questions such consensus, and it views proposals for cutting back carbon emission as too heavy-handed and will do more damage to the economy of countries like Canada than the expected good.

I recall a neat story about Albert Einstein when asked how he felt that some 200 German scientists assembled by the Nazi regime had declared his science was bad. Einstein replied that all it took was one scientist to prove him wrong.

Gore and his supporters can draw upon science for their politics, reconcile contradictions between what they do and what they profess, and may even turn a profit out of the public policy they promote without breaking any laws.

Gore is the founding chairman of Generation Investment, a company established in 2004. It provides business with assessments of "risks and opportunities presented by climate change" for long term profitability, said David Blood, Gore's partner and former CEO of Goldman Sachs Asset Management.

Science is expected to be value-free and politically neutral. But scientists are human and not entirely immune to politics, especially when science is dependent on public-funding.

The insistence by Gore that his moral crusade is scientifically unimpeachable is confusing to that segment of the public who genuinely want to understand what to make of the unsettled debate among scientists about climate change and global warming. To resort to smear by parties on either side of the debate only deepens the suspicion of political considerations driving science.

We know from recent past experiences, however, that long-term predictions on issues where human agency and nature intersect -- such as population or renewable resources -- turned out differently.

This record of science being fallible might be a small consolation. Yet it is a helpful reminder. Scientists, when true to their vocation, will ask of the public not to abandon skepticism as a "truth" seeking tool -- unlike politicians in general being insistent on consensus when "truth" is uncertain.


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KEYWORDS: globalwarming
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To: palmer
Haven't heard of Plotu, but it may be warming along with all the other plantes.

And it may affect the aminalf which fwim in the fea.

21 posted on 04/02/2007 7:56:02 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: Clive

Funny how global warming is a "moral issue" and stems cells are not.


22 posted on 04/02/2007 8:04:54 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Clive

I am soooooooooo not a happy camper. White stuff falling outside the window. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!! It really is April, isn't it?


23 posted on 04/02/2007 8:10:30 AM PDT by Concerto in D
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To: Clive
There are two truths to global warming;

-the globe has been warming for 10,000 years through no fault of man

-regardless, we will pay a tax to government to protect us from it.

24 posted on 04/02/2007 8:12:22 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: Concerto in D

Two fresh inches of snow at my place - GD winter!

It's April, fer Crissakes!!!

"Next winter in Mexico" - that's my new motto.


25 posted on 04/02/2007 8:15:21 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: headsonpikes

Take me with you. This is ridiculous! Sigh!


26 posted on 04/02/2007 8:19:47 AM PDT by Concerto in D
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To: Clive

"Gore has been on a roll since the Academy Awards"


....wow,

I didn't know they MADE them eight feet across....!!!!


27 posted on 04/02/2007 8:31:27 AM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: Concerto in D

I don't think my bride would go along with that idea!

Posting from Winter Wonderland in God's Own Kootenays.


28 posted on 04/02/2007 8:31:33 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

> He never did explain how the core sample prove his finding
My understanding is that you can take an ice core and examine it to determine where the layers of plant pollen are.

Then by using the plant pollen as an indication of spring weather when the flowers are germinating, the pollen is carried in the air flows, you can measure up or down in years.

That is how they can say that a volcano erupted so many years ago and be accurate ....... they see the volcanic ash in the ice core and by determining the various metalic traces the scientists have an idea what particular volcano popped its top.


29 posted on 04/02/2007 8:42:23 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: Clive

There's a new tag line here. Unfortunately, it's too long:
"It doesn't take a consensus of scientists to prove anthropogenic global warming using the scientific method. It takes only one. So far, none has.


30 posted on 04/02/2007 8:46:27 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: dfwgator
LOL

I'm planning on black bean burritos for dinner!

31 posted on 04/02/2007 8:47:07 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Clive
[ Is there global warming 'truth'? ]

Of course there is.. the earth has been warming for 10,000 years..
The great lakes would be frozen solid if not..

32 posted on 04/02/2007 8:51:09 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
-the globe has been warming for 10,000 years through no fault of man

It's our fault all right. Not only are we at fault we are so powerful it began to warm up just because it was inevitable seeing how at fault we were going to be.

33 posted on 04/02/2007 8:51:50 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: camle
"It's those damn Blazers and Suburbans causing it, I tell ya." - Algiore.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

34 posted on 04/02/2007 8:54:33 AM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe's "awkward time" is quickly coming to an end!)
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To: headsonpikes

Just across the border--NW Washington, top corner (almost).

Sigh! Tell the little lady that I'm really, really nice. Snicker!


35 posted on 04/02/2007 8:55:06 AM PDT by Concerto in D
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To: hosepipe
The great lakes would be frozen solid if not

Have you been swimming in Lake Superior lately? It's still frozen, just in liquid form.

36 posted on 04/02/2007 8:55:32 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Texas_shutterbug

>Are we a major factor in global warming. I don't think we're even close.
Can more be done around the world not to pollute and stink up the planet? I believe so.<

One good sized forest fire puts more soot and trash in the air than all the cars in your entire state.


37 posted on 04/02/2007 8:56:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
But, but, but...I thought we weren't supposed to legislate morality.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

38 posted on 04/02/2007 8:57:02 AM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe's "awkward time" is quickly coming to an end!)
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To: wku man

suburbans on Jupiter?


39 posted on 04/02/2007 9:01:11 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: RightWhale
I am an IF/THEN guy ...

From 1500 to 1850 the average temp on the earth dropped 10 degrees. From 1890 to 1990 the average temp was up 1 degree.

IF the 1 degree rise in temps was because of man and too much industrialization, THEN the preceding 10 degree drop in temps was do to not enough men and not enough industrialization!

40 posted on 04/02/2007 9:01:34 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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