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'Soviet era less bleak than US history' (Putin)
News.com.au ^ | 6/23/07 | AFP

Posted on 06/24/2007 4:58:04 PM PDT by wagglebee

THE history of the Soviet Union had fewer black pages in its history than certain other countries, not least the United States, President Vladimir Putin has said in a speech.

"Regarding the problematic pages in our history, yes, we do have them, as does any state," Putin said at a social sciences conference, citing Stalin's purges during the 1930s.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; putin; russia; sovietunion; ussr
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To: popdonnelly

Ronaldus Magnus: “Weeeelll, here they go again!”


41 posted on 06/24/2007 6:29:40 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: wagglebee

Our history certainly is bleak, but we’ve come to terms with the bleakness and made amends for it.

Can the KGB say the same? No.


42 posted on 06/24/2007 6:29:41 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: wagglebee

Is this the same guy that we were led to believe was a “friend” just a few years back? Putin just cannot let of of the Soviet Union’s loss in the Cold War (although I’m not so sure they lost...I take stock of how our country is degrading into something that is starting to remind me of the old USSR).


43 posted on 06/24/2007 6:41:44 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: wagglebee

You can never go broke overestimating the depths that the left hates the US.

In all honesty, can you not hear any top-tier Democrat making claims like this to one of their many anti-American constituancies?


44 posted on 06/24/2007 6:43:31 PM PDT by Stand W (Fetchez La Vache!)
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To: wagglebee

I would like to thank this perpetual LIAR. He made me remember our history, the valid record of our lives from the time we settled this land, is under constant attack. Listen Putin, we are a country born of pain and freedom. You are hell. You destroy. We Build. You can lie and manipulate forever, and this will not change. I hate you.


45 posted on 06/24/2007 6:54:30 PM PDT by steel_resolve (Islam cannot compete in the marketplace of ideas, so they car bomb it instead.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
"Putin doesn't have to worry too much that any Westerners who hear his remarks will know much about the other Soviet atrocities."

Man, you got that right.

Between our commie-loving media and our pathetic hate-America-first academia dedicated to pouring out little Marxists, not that many are aware of Soviet history.

46 posted on 06/24/2007 7:04:43 PM PDT by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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To: wagglebee

The wolf is shedding his sheepskin.

Is there any wonder his neighbors seek security agreements with NATO?


47 posted on 06/24/2007 7:29:56 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: Abcdefg
Well, except for Communist China, Cambodia, Cuba and, more recently, Nicaragua under Ortega brothers.

Very true.

48 posted on 06/24/2007 7:31:16 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: wagglebee
KGB is KGB.

No surprises, except for W. Bush who could see into his soul ... NOT!

49 posted on 06/24/2007 7:34:01 PM PDT by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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To: wagglebee

To name one:

Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from Smolensk in Russia where, in 1940 on Stalin’s orders, the NKVD shot and buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in WW2 in support of the Nazis.

In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944, having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in such arguments.

In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Gorbachev finally admitted that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin’s order of March 1940 to execute by shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular second world war slaughter of Poles is often referred to as the “Katyn Massacre” or the “Katyn Forest Massacre”.

The Soviets completely eliminated the Polish officer class in the military.


50 posted on 06/24/2007 7:34:37 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: wagglebee

In the *history* of the United States, the number killed by lynchings never exceeded the hundreds. While this is deplorable, the Soviet evil was on another order of magnitude, with literally millions dead.

Just because no country is perfect doesn’t mean they’re all morally equivalent.


51 posted on 06/24/2007 7:38:54 PM PDT by JHBowden (Better Fred than red!)
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To: condo_living_is_nice; kronos77; Flavius

This is SO ludicrous!

The United States never committed mass genocide. Communism claimed over 100 million victims in some 50 years, many of them committed by Russia or with its support.


52 posted on 06/24/2007 7:43:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Roy Tucker
In 1944 the Poles in Warsaw revolted when the Red Army was just a few miles away. The Soviets did nothing to help, letting the Germans decimate the Poles. Of course that would make it easier for Stalin to impose his will on Poland at the end of the war.

Ryszard Kapucinski's book Imperium has some very interesting material on the Soviet empire, part of it based on his childhood memories of occupied Poland. He also deals with the great famine in Ukraine. (Not sure if I spelled his first name right.)

53 posted on 06/24/2007 7:52:29 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: wagglebee

titter...


54 posted on 06/24/2007 7:53:08 PM PDT by bannie
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To: wagglebee

Their “wonderful history” must be why they had to lock their people IN and swallow the freakin’ key.

oy.


55 posted on 06/24/2007 7:54:16 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Clintonfatigued
While nowhere on the scale of Russia, China or Germany, we do get a black mark for our dealing with native Indians and slavery in general. In time we bettered ourselves. Not true for the others.
56 posted on 06/24/2007 8:17:17 PM PDT by DB
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To: wagglebee
1/3 of the democide murders occurred after WWII.
It does not count German, Poland, Yugoslavia, etc.
All told communism has murdered 170 million of it's own population.





57 posted on 06/24/2007 8:57:42 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: wagglebee
"Regarding the problematic pages in our history, yes, we do have them, as does any state,"

The Kulak genocide, The Terror, Show trials, collectivization and the Gulags those were indeed dark pages.

58 posted on 06/24/2007 10:22:52 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: DaveTesla

Bump for source


59 posted on 06/24/2007 10:43:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: T.L.Sink
And that is that Stalin was a documented member of the Okhrana - the old czarist secret police.

Stalin sure seemed to be able to stay out of any real trouble. I had read this too.

60 posted on 06/24/2007 10:49:11 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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