[Sword_Svalbardt]

Big time, look at the development of the republican party 1839, and look at what democrats did ti Fremont with Lincoln as his VP.

Brought in a guy from Europe - sound familiar? Somebody who had little (negative) past. That somebody (Buchanan) launched a smear campaign from the word go, assaulting Fremont’s mother, and Fremont - probably one of the best and most qualified persons running for president at the time.

The “Path finder,” as he was called failed to win the election, but as a member of the Army Corps of Engineers, served his country well (few people talk of his previous obligation as a junior officer in the Fleet aboard the war sloop Natchez.

It was Fremont who was the driving force of westward expansion in this country in the early 1840’s. It was Fremont’s political connections back east which caused Lincoln to gravitate toward Fremont.

Now, let’s toss out the emancipation proclamation, and the start of the war, which came first?

The war, Lincoln knew he could not float a war on slavery, the North had as many slaves as the South, just more industrialization - which stopped the South.

As you said, slavery was on the way out since the English had abolished slavery in their country and holdings in 1853.

[iowamark]

the North had as many slaves as the South

You need to read some American history.

[Non-Sequitur]

Amazing. I don't think there is a single accurate statement in that entire post. The Republican party was extablished in 1854, not 1839. Fremont's vice president in 1856 was William Dayton and not Abraham Lincoln. Buchanan hadn't been in Europe since 1834 when he was ambassador to Russia. Fremont was an army officer and never went to sea on a naval vessel, certainly on on a USS Natchez which had beens scrapped in 1840. The South had many times as many slaves as the North had. And finally England had abolished slavery in 1833 not 1853.

Other than that, not bad.

[Ditto]

Big time, look at the development of the republican party 1839....

You are 15 years early there. The Republican (Free Soil) Party was not formed until 1854 with the disentegration of the Whig Party caused by the Kansas-Nebraska Act.

.... and look at what democrats did ti Fremont with Lincoln as his VP.

LOL. Lincoln was virtually unknown outside Illinois in 1856 and he was not on the ticket with Freemont. It was a guy named Dayton from New Jersey.

.... North had as many slaves as the South

Huh? Here's the 1860 Census Data. Where do you get this crap? Not out of any history book, that's for sure.

As you said, slavery was on the way out since the English had abolished slavery...

Pure nonsense. Show us on bit of evidence from the time that anyone thought slavery was "on the way out." Slavery was alive and well and the most profitable business in the world in 1860.