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Interior secretary steps into water fight
The Birmingham News ^ | 10/25/07 | David White and Mary Orndorff

Posted on 10/25/2007 4:42:49 PM PDT by mtnwmn

Gov. Bob Riley today said he plans to meet Friday with U.S. Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne to talk about the drought and the fight over water being waged by the states of Alabama, Georgia and Florida.

''We're going to tell him that the only way all of us get through this is through a concept of shared pain," Riley said in an interview today.

Jim Connaughton, chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality and an adviser to President Bush, plans to join Kempthorne in meeting with Riley Friday afternoon. Earlier in the day, Connaughton and Kempthorne plan to meet in Atlanta with Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue, said Perdue spokesman Bert Brantley.

Perdue wants the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to reduce water releases into the Chattahoochee River from Lake Lanier in north Georgia.

But Riley said he would fight any cuts in water releases that would hurt the operation of Alabama plants that take water from the Chattahoochee downstream from Lake Lanier. Among them is the Farley nuclear plant, which generates electricity in Houston County.

Riley also said he anticipates meeting in Washington on Thursday with Perdue and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist to see if they can work toward reaching a water-sharing agreement.

''I hope we can get a better understanding of what our positions are," Riley said. ''I think it's much better to do it face-to-face than it is to continue this rhetoric that has become so heightened over the last few days."


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1 posted on 10/25/2007 4:42:49 PM PDT by mtnwmn
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To: mtnwmn

Headline writer = wise guy.

Squirt!!!!


2 posted on 10/25/2007 4:44:25 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: mtnwmn
But Riley said he would fight any cuts in water releases that would hurt the operation of Alabama plants that take water from the Chattahoochee downstream from Lake Lanier. Among them is the Farley nuclear plant, which generates electricity in Houston County.

Nuclear Power Plants don’t work very well with out water.

Do the words MELT DOWN ring a bell or maybe THE CHINA SYNDROM.

3 posted on 10/25/2007 4:50:32 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

Something the liberals want to see.


4 posted on 10/25/2007 4:53:47 PM PDT by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

I heard the big deal here was Atlanta was parched and they want to stop sending water down the river to protect endangered species and use it for people instead.


5 posted on 10/25/2007 4:59:33 PM PDT by RainMan
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To: RainMan
I think that suit was filed to keep the water flowing....ATL has been hogging the water for years. This is the same story with a new spin.
6 posted on 10/25/2007 5:03:57 PM PDT by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: RainMan

Remember Klamath falls? gonna’ be a big turn out on the left. Best get out all the poor minorities - they will trump a sucker any day.

Use that as a lynch pin, and the left will fight among themselves.


7 posted on 10/25/2007 5:09:01 PM PDT by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: RainMan
I heard the big deal here was Atlanta was parched and they want to stop sending water down the river to protect endangered species and use it for people instead.

Federalism is a good thing.

What a state has is the states to use the way they deem necessary.

Forced compliance via Washington dictate is what creates these issues.

Local government makes for a much more efficient problem solver and at a lesser cost.

Washington meddling in states issues is what has created this problem in the first place.

8 posted on 10/25/2007 5:17:30 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RainMan
I heard the big deal here was Atlanta was parched and they want to stop sending water down the river to protect endangered species and use it for people instead.

And that is what this is all about. We just got thru seeing what saving species and environment leads to in California. Forget the species and provide for the people.

9 posted on 10/25/2007 5:22:24 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: RainMan

I just came from spending a few days in the ATL, and they’re freaking out. Lake Lanier is one of the primary water resources for metro Atlanta, and it’s down something like 14-15 feet and dropping six inches a week. Yet the Army Corps of Engineers keeps the outflow into the Chattahoochee River the same as always, and that water ends up heading to Florida. I drove along the Chattahoochee near Roswell to get to my in-laws’ last week, and it’s still at the same level as always.

So basically, Georgia (effectively, metro Atlanta) is saying “it’s our water” and wants to force the ACE to restrict the outflow from Lanier into the Chattahoochee, to leave more water for local use. Yes, some of the water goes into the Appalachicola River basin in Florida (so I heard) for some sort of endangered mussel, but some of it may also be used by downstream communities in Georgia and Florida for human uses like factories or farms. I’m not sure.

}:-)4


10 posted on 10/25/2007 5:28:55 PM PDT by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: RainMan

“I heard the big deal here was Atlanta was parched and they want to stop sending water down the river to protect endangered species and use it for people instead.”

That and a powerplant downstream that needs water. BUT, the powerplant only provides enough energy for 19,000 homes. Surely that power could be replaced. Not sure if it is the nuke plant mentioned or not.


11 posted on 10/25/2007 5:29:02 PM PDT by nralife
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To: mtnwmn
All that is an intersting concept. They seem to be meeting with the wrong branch of the federal government though...


U.S. Consttution
Article I
Section 9.

No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.


This could get interesting...

12 posted on 10/25/2007 5:35:55 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: RainMan

This is more complicated than that. This argument has been going on for decades. I live in Alabama and parts of the state rely on water coming from Georgia. The Florida endangered mussels are the reason the Corp is required to keep the flow at a certain rate. Georgia, Florida, and Alabama have been in negotiations for years to determine what the best rate. Georgia has not planned for the increased water usage that Atlanta demands and has been in a draught condition for an extended period. Georgia wants to drop the water flow down to a level that will hurt people living in Alabama and Florida. (It MAY hurt some shell fish, but I don’t really care) Georgia withdrew from the negotiations and is now negotiating in the press. The answer is somewhere in between the current flow and the low flow that Georgia is demanding. The bottom line is that people somewhere are going to suffer because of Georgia’s lack of planning.


13 posted on 10/25/2007 6:38:45 PM PDT by lifesaver
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To: Pontiac

China Syndrome is a physical impossibility.


14 posted on 10/25/2007 6:42:37 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: EGPWS

So what happens when Alabama attacks Georgia when Georgia shuts off the spigot?


15 posted on 10/25/2007 6:46:20 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
So what happens when Alabama attacks Georgia when Georgia shuts off the spigot?

Those with a pondering mind wonder what Georgia's relationship with Alabama would be on this issue if they were to work it out together without restriction in doing so from another entity of government via dictate.

16 posted on 10/25/2007 7:00:47 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Georgia, Florida, and Alabama have been in negotiations for years to determine what the best rate.

That is called Congressional transference of funds out of Washington in layman's terms.

17 posted on 10/25/2007 7:04:27 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: taxesareforever
Forget the species and provide for the people.

(tree hugger GASP!) lol

18 posted on 10/25/2007 7:08:05 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS; blam; Tuscaloosa Goldfinch; Texaggie79

Interestingly enough, all of the players involved share fault.

Yes, Atlanta has acted like most (not all) other big cities in neglecting its water infrastructure and planning...and has depended too much on one source...

...but the sod farmers (hundreds of them) in Alabama are *each* consuming between 500,000 and 1 million gallons of water per day without charge.

Yup, that great green grass that you buy cheap from Alabama is subsidized thanks to the all-powerful Farm Lobby.

And in “normal” times that would be fine, but in STAGE 3 drought conditions it’s a bit ridiculous to be allowing sod farmers so much free water for such a non-essential product (lawn grass).


19 posted on 10/25/2007 7:09:18 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
China Syndrome is a physical impossibility.

If you mean by that that the molten fuel would burn its way to China, yes it is not possible.

But the China Syndrome actually is postulated to be an accident where a total loss of cooling to the reactor allows the molten fuel to burn its way through the reactor building base mat until it reaches the water table and causes large plume of radioactive vapor to contaminate the surrounding area and the local aquifer would then be contaminated and undrinkable.

The good news is that even the China Syndrome was proven very unlikely in US designed reactors by Three Mile Island (USSR designed reactors are another story all together).

At Three Mile Island the operators turned off the cooling water and the reactor core melted and crumbled down in to the remaining water. Fortunately the operators eventually turned on the cooling water again. But even if they had not and the core had melted through the reactor vessel there was several hundred thousand gallons of water in the bottom of the reactor building that would have cooled the molten core (we just won’t talk about the resulting steam explosion that would have cracked the reactor building).

20 posted on 10/25/2007 7:40:33 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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