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US moves to avert economic meltdown
AP via Yahoo ^ | 1/22/08 | Terence Hunt

Posted on 01/22/2008 5:38:14 PM PST by jdsteel

WASHINGTON - Jolted by global recession fears, the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates Tuesday, and President Bush and leaders of Congress joined in a rare show of cooperation in promising urgent action to pump up the economy with upwards of $150 billion in tax cuts and government spending.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: federal; stocks; wallstreet
OK, here's your chance to say you called it. Buy, Sell or Hold?!?
1 posted on 01/22/2008 5:38:16 PM PST by jdsteel
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To: jdsteel

I’ll hold.


2 posted on 01/22/2008 5:44:06 PM PST by Redgirl (In vino, veritas)
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To: jdsteel
I’m wondering about the relationship between the instability with bond insurers and the bond market in general. Bond funds, like Vanguard’s VBMXF (an intermediate term bond fund) have risen noticeably in the past month. It’s made up of about 10% government bonds and the rest are “high quality” commercial bonds. I’m wondering why this fund hasn’t dropped in value. Any thoughts?
3 posted on 01/22/2008 5:45:23 PM PST by glockmeister40
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To: jdsteel

Sell. Now.

The damage to the financial system that has been hiding behind the curtain for so long is only now just starting to poke through. It won’t be long before the real damage to the economy is readily apparent to most everyone. To people who think the stock market has just hit bottom. To people who think housing is about to rebound. To people who say, “now is the best time to buy”. To people who think there is no liquidity crisis, or that the financial losses to the lenders and investors is overblown. To people who think all of the recession talk is just smoke and mirrors by the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy.

My vote is sell now and buy back later for less.


4 posted on 01/22/2008 5:45:45 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: jdsteel
Drill! Drill Anwar! The price of oil will come down, people will start buying, energy prices will come down, the economy will start chugging. The stupid morons in congress won't let us add to the the supply of oil that would have broken opecs grip and kept energy price and inflation down. These morons in Washington are worried about saving three artic gophers. Now all the ding-dongs and girly-crats in Washington are running around like a brunch of headless chickens. Oh! what to do, what to do! All these morons know to do is spend more on pork and waste 30% more money than they did last year.

Go Mitt

5 posted on 01/22/2008 5:51:32 PM PST by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: jdsteel

Oh, for crying out loud.

“Economic meltdown?”

Hyperbole outbreak is more like it. Just in time for the election.


6 posted on 01/22/2008 5:54:06 PM PST by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hildebeast as its president has forfeited its right to exist)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

So....we are going to go $150B+ (probably more like $250B when its over) we don’t have just so Americans will feel confident to go out and buy more foreign products? Yeah, that will help.

Frankly, I’d feel better if we just had the recession and got it out of our system. The occasional recession used to be part of the normal business cycle, but I guess it has become unacceptable for anyone to feel pain or hardship anymore. Instead, the political class has become so desperate that we have to go on an insane spending binge to stave off the inevitable. This tells me that so much has been swept under the carpet, the foundation of the house is in jepoardy.


7 posted on 01/22/2008 5:54:30 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: jdsteel
"American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage."

~~Alan Greenspan, February 22, 2004

"We're not about to go into a situation where (real estate) prices will go down. There is no evidence home prices are going to collapse."

~~Alan Greenspan, May 21, 2006

“The damage from the subprime market has been largely contained. Fortunately, the financial system and the economy are strong enough to weather this storm.”

Richard Fisher, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas President, Apr 4, 2007

"All that said, given the fundamental factors in place that should support the demand for housing, we believe the effect of the troubles in the subprime sector on the broader housing market will likely be limited, and we do not expect significant spillovers from the subprime market to the rest of the economy or to the financial system."

~~Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, May 17, 2007

8 posted on 01/22/2008 6:10:23 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: jdsteel

We’ve got the Super Bowl in a couple of weeks, but for right now, it’s the Hyper Bole.


9 posted on 01/22/2008 6:11:14 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: glockmeister40
I’m wondering why this fund hasn’t dropped in value. Any thoughts?

It might be a similar fund as VBTIX in post 44 in the following thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956887/posts?page=44#44

10 posted on 01/22/2008 6:18:21 PM PST by EVO X
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To: rbg81

I appreciate the government’s desire to keep growing the economy — it is kind of a win/win for everybody. But they don’t consider the potential harm they cause with their attempts to prop up the economy. When the pain finally comes, it always hurts more for longer than if they didn’t meddle.


11 posted on 01/22/2008 6:50:20 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; rbg81

Agree, the artificial propping of the economy only means they are trying to mask the pain. Long term holder here, though you could buy carbon credits from me when you get your $800.


12 posted on 01/22/2008 7:30:57 PM PST by Son House (Protection For Opportunity Seekers And Tax Payers From Congress Spending: Low Tax Rates !!!)
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To: Son House

That is an offer I ALMOST can’t refuse! Hmmm.... Let me think on that. LOL.


13 posted on 01/22/2008 7:45:08 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: jdsteel

I’m melting! I’m melting!

(Sorry, :) couldn’t resist)


14 posted on 01/22/2008 7:49:32 PM PST by Redcitizen (What we need is a Grand Army of the Republic.)
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To: jdsteel
President Bush and leaders of Congress joined in a rare show of cooperation in promising urgent action to pump up the economy with upwards of $150 billion in tax cuts and government spending.

ANY CHANCE, ANY CHANCE THAT THE MARXIST'S AND THE RINOcrat SOCIALIST JORGE BUSHWINSKI gets to GOVERNMENT SPEND, they never miss the chance.

15 posted on 01/22/2008 7:53:38 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: glockmeister40
I’m wondering about the relationship between the instability with bond insurers and the bond market in general. Bond funds, like Vanguard’s VBMXF (an intermediate term bond fund) have risen noticeably in the past month. It’s made up of about 10% government bonds and the rest are “high quality” commercial bonds. I’m wondering why this fund hasn’t dropped in value. Any thoughts?

Keating Five... subprime lending...

16 posted on 01/22/2008 7:55:01 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Travis McGee

Subprime lending crisis? Keating Five S&L bailout scandal?

Enron, WorldCom... interesting stuff... McCain, Clintong... Chinese investors... Lippo group...


17 posted on 01/22/2008 7:57:06 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Skooz
Hyperbole outbreak is more like it. Just in time for the election.

No kidding. This particular "meltdown" has yet to show us two consecutive quarters of negative growth. What if they gave a recession and nobody came?

18 posted on 01/22/2008 8:00:42 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: glockmeister40
I’m wondering about the relationship between the instability with bond insurers and the bond market in general. Bond funds, like Vanguard’s VBMXF (an intermediate term bond fund) have risen noticeably in the past month. It’s made up of about 10% government bonds and the rest are “high quality” commercial bonds. I’m wondering why this fund hasn’t dropped in value. Any thoughts?

Flight to quality.

19 posted on 01/23/2008 9:40:59 AM PST by jdsteel (proud member of "Mothers And Children Against Criminal Aliens")
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To: Skooz
Hyperbole outbreak is more like it. Just in time for the election.

Yup.

Any day now, the Democrats will be setting up soup kitchens and releasing photos of "hobo jungles" and The Dixie Chicks will release their new single, "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?"

20 posted on 01/23/2008 9:48:38 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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