Eldorado Yearning For Zion women experience the most feared words ever spoken

NewsReleaseWire ^ | 17Apr08 | Gary D. Naler

[claudiustg]

“The death penalty of family law cases.” This is how the events unfolding for 416 children and their now-separated mothers were described as the State of Texas and Child Protective Services (CPS) mount their largest single attack ever on families. After being forcibly removed from their homes at gunpoint and then through deceit and lies separated from their children, these crying and now-untrusting mothers deprived of any parting contact with their children were given the choice—go to a women’s shelter or go back to your homes. “Your children are ours,” said CPS.

Fearfully, these distressed mothers are not alone in their harrowing experience. After working with 300 cases in Georgia alone, State Senator Nancy Schaefer filed a report, concluding: “I believe Child Protective Services nationwide has become corrupt and that the entire system is broken almost beyond repair. I am convinced parents and families should be warned of the dangers. … It obliterates families and children simply because it has the power to do so.” ...

...“Our children have good mothers. We take very good care of them. We are not child abusers. The only abuse they've ever had is since the CPS has taken them. They are innocent and sweet children,” said one mother. "The sexual abuse and all of these reports that are coming through are not accurate," said Janet. "It seems as though, often times people judge from their own hearts — other people — and this is what we are victims of."

[beebuster2000]

heard on the news that one of the “kids” is a 16 year old girl who has had three children.
are you really proposing that the minor girl children be left in that environment?

tragedy for the “mothers” but they are either powerless victims or part of the problem. either way the state needs to step in and protect the kids. i don't see any other choice.

[yldstrk]

The mothers are children too.

[Don Corleone]

Who was it that said, “It takes a village.”?

[CindyDawg]

I should have used “ “

[panaxanax]

Your words should be chiseled in stone!

Prepare to be attacked by the gang of Mormon-haters who have, of late, become Constitution and FReedom-haters that convict and hang before trial.

[brytlea]

You are a nation more righteous than America, and rightfully shame us for our aberrant immoral and immodest behavior.

Speaking of Saudi Arabia, this sentence by the author tells me everything I need to know about him. Yikes...

susie

[CindyDawg]

It really is sad. These women will change though. Even if they go back and make more babies, CPS will most likely be watching them closely. Life at that compound will not continue as usual. If that’s the plan, they best just move on to another state.

[Wallace T.]

Whatever the abuses committed by members of this cult, the state's role should properly be restricted to the investigation of a crime and the arrest of those guilty of sexual abuse of minors. The facts that the state of Texas cannot produce the girl who made the allegations and that CPS is interrogating the women and children without their having legal counsel fly in the face of the Fourth Amendment and Anglo-American legal tradition of habeas corpus and due process of law.

The CPS type agencies need to be disbanded. Local police agencies bound by Constitutional restraints should be the only authority responsible for investigation of child abuse allegations.

[Charles Martel]

Other evidence: several 13, 14 , 15 and 16 yo that are pregnant.

Yep. However, some here insist on defending these women and condemning the actions of Texas law enforcement. It's obvious that the "mothers" not only condone the treatment that their minor daughters have been receiving, they are actively shielding the men responsible for those abuses.

It's not as though nobody was aware that polygamy and/or underage "marriage" are illegal in most jurisdictions - many of these people came from other "compounds" that were shut down for those very reasons.

[CindyDawg]

I agree with some of your post. We need to take care of this El Dorado problem first and then clean the rest of the house. If a girl younger than 16 gets pregnant and her parents did not reasonably try to supervise then charge them with neglect. Drop the hammer on PP and schools that do not report underage pregnancy. Find these Dad’s.

[maine-iac7]

Anyone else having difficulty understanding that title?

Glad you asked.

As a semi-retired writer/editor/publisher, this headline - and most others we see today - are gibberish.

Don't blame the writer tho'. It's the editor's that write the headlines of a story, often having little to do with the actual story or even understandable in English.

I had many a clash over this with past editors. I still write one of my columns (20 yrs now) and usually have to have a knock-down-drag out with each new editor (they come and go with rapidity) about changing my column titles.

News stories, they have - unfortunately - that prerogative. But They are not to touch our columns.

I had one that would change the titles each week - on all of the columns - with the caveat that, as editor, he felt his touch should be on everything in the paper, to create 'continuity.'

After the 3rd 'title' change on my columns that had nothing to do with the gist of the column, I called him and told him it was unacceptable as my readers blamed me. He said: "But your titles don't form a sentence. They have no verbs."

"Ah, Mr. Editor, neither do most book titles. These are columns, not news stories."

Anyway, all of us columnists ganged up on him and he capitulated.

Today, both in print and TV, not only do we have these inane titles, but egregious grammatical errors that hit your ear like nails on a chalk board.

[CindyDawg]

I’m the last one that should be complaining about grammar or spelling.When you see a post like this from me, it’s really bad:’)

[Charles Martel]

These women will change though. Even if they go back and make more babies, CPS will most likely be watching them closely. Life at that compound will not continue as usual. If that’s the plan, they best just move on to another state.

Moving from place to place has been the SOP for these groups in the past. That may no longer serve their purposes as well as it used to, though. Law enforcement agencies are better at sharing information these days.

[CindyDawg]

Are you from Texas?

[Intimidator]

So you would condone allowing these women have unfettered access to potential witnessess ‘before their day in court’? Remember, that these women have aided and abetted criminal acts by their husbands. And, remember also, many of these ‘children’ are 10-16 year old girls considered to prime candidates for ‘marraige’.

I agree

[CindyDawg]

Well it looks like Texas is going to try to slow that SOP down a bit. There won’t be any young brides from this group for awhile.

[Wallace T.]

If a girl younger than 16 gets pregnant and her parents did not reasonably try to supervise then charge them with neglect. Drop the hammer on PP and schools that do not report underage pregnancy. Find these Dad’s.

This will never happen. Politicians in Texas and elsewhere, Republican or Democrat, will never attack the problems associated with teenage pregnancies. To a great, though not exclusive, extent, it occurs in minority neighborhoods. No politician is willing to be called a racist or, in the case of a minority politician, an OREO or a coconut (black/brown on the outside; white on the inside). What is happening in El Dorado looks like selective enforcement against a group with no political power and great unpopularity.

[wita]

Well now Appy, that is the issue isn’t it. If you follow the thread long enough, and it won’t take very long, a day in court is what some people think would be just, before someones children are taken from them, and without all the innuendo and opinion, condemning the innocent before the verdict of guilty, which will be the desire of a great many.

[CindyDawg]

Yeah. I guess it’s just best to do nothing and cry foul huh?

[maine-iac7]

It's obvious that the "mothers" not only condone the treatment that their minor daughters have been receiving, they are actively shielding the men responsible for those abuses.

These women were born, raised and brainwashed in this cult. They know nothing else.

They were raised to believe that the tenets of this 'church' are the only way to "Zion" and they are fulfilling their God appointed role, per their masters.

In addition, they have no experience with life outside the compound, no skills to support themselves and their children on the outside.

They are not only physical slaves but emotional slaves. They suffer from the ultimate captor's syndrome - I forget the name for it.