Obama's Certification of Live Birth Found and Posted at Daily Kos

NRO ^ | 6/12/08 | Jim Gerahgty

[pissant]

Daily Kos has obtained a copy of Obama's "certification of live birth."

All of the information is what we have been told before - name, birth date, etc.. His mother's race is listed as "Caucasian," his father as "African." No middle name of Muhammad, no first name of "Barry," no last name of "Dunham." He's listed as "Barack Hussein Obama II," not "Jr."

(Interestingly, in the lower right hand corner is the backwards reflection of a stamp, "June 6 or G, 2007". Did someone request or process this record about a year ago?)

Site creator Markos Moulitsas mentions in the comments the campaign released it to him.

(Also, for astrologers, the time of birth was 7:24 p.m.)

Next time you get one of those e-mails suggesting Obama has a different "real name," send people to this post or that document.

UPDATE: I'm getting some, "Jim, this looks modern," e-mail messages. As Ed notes,

When someone requests a validated copy of their birth certificate, they don’t get a photocopy of the original. They get a fresh certificate with a seal showing that it came from the official registrar, in most states. They keep the info in a computer and produced validated copies on request.

This is a validated copy of the birth certificate, with which Obama could get a passport, register to vote, etc etc. It’s perfectly acceptable.

Obama himself probably has a dog-eared yellowing copy in a desk drawer somewhere; this document is what he or someone authorized by him was given by the state out of its records. Barring some vast conspiracy within the Hawaii State Department of Health, there is no reason to think his birth certificate would have any different data.

[SilvieWaldorfMD]

I guess they have it all on computer now, since this is obviously not a 1961 document.

Is Mary Mapes now working at the State of Hawaii Health Department's Vital Statistics Administration or something?

[ravingnutter]

1)No Registrar signature?

2)No ages of the parents?

Also, there is that pesky little problem with no age listing...

"If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

FindLaw

How do we know Obama's mother met this standard?

[AmericaUnited]

What Information You Should Be Prepared to Provide

An applicant/requestor must provide the information needed to 1) establish his/her direct and tangible interest in the record and 2) locate the desired record. This will normally include:

* Applicant's name, address, and telephone number(s);
* Applicant's relationship to the person named on the certificate;
* Reason why you are requesting the certificate;
* Full name(s) as listed on the certificate;
* The certificate’s file number (if known);
* Month, day, and year of the event; and
* City or town and the island where the event occurred.
* For birth certificates, also provide the full name of the father and the full maiden name of the mother.
* If you are applying for a certificate on behalf of someone else, you must provide an original letter signed by that person authorizing the release of their certificate to you. This means Barry!

[mikrofon]

We now know Obama’s live birth has been certified, but you still have to wonder who exactly hatched his current bid for the Presidency?

[ravingnutter]

I was almost named Spencer after my grandfather and I am a female, they were going to give me the middle name of Ann, after my grandmother. Mom changed her mind on the way to the hospital when she saw my actual name on a storefront.

[AmericaUnited]

Who is Eligible to Apply for an Amended Certificate of Birth?

As provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth:

* A person born in the State of Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health and

1. has become legally adopted, or
2. has undergone a sex change operation, or
3. a legal determination of the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship for a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file has been made, or
4. previously recorded information in relation to the person’s surname and/or the father’s personal particulars has been altered pursuant to law.

* A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii.

[LWalk18]

"If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

That only applies if the child was born out of the country. Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother- that makes him a natural born citizen.

[KJC1]

One last comment then I have to run for a few hours. I looked back at my copy and there IS an embossed or embossed-type stamp in the middle. It’s like it was pressed in, with no coloring of any type. I do not see this on the close-up of Obama’s birth certificate BUT it is so faint on mine I’m not sure if it would show up on a scan...although I seem to think you’d at least see something different in the pattern. So, not sure what to think.

[AmericaUnited]

That embossed seal is what makes it a ‘CERTIFIED’ copy.

[Veto!]

Since you came up with the date and time, I went to Astro.com and ran a horoscope. This is the abbreviated free report, for more, you pay.

Hussein's Career and Life Path is pretty funny:

"Your Attitudes and strengths
An honest and realistic understanding of your fundamental strengths can help you to orientate yourself in the world and put your energy into areas where you can hope to shine and achieve at least many of your most cherished goals.

[..] Your real field of work is the imagination; and whether you express it in obviously creative ways such as writing, painting, or theatre, or in the helping professions through depth psychotherapy and dream-work, you would never be able to bear for long a field of endeavour [...]

[..] This may have caused you problems in the past, because if you have tried to pursue the ordinary cut-and-thrust business of making it in the world, you may have been baffled by your lack of commitment and your tendency to retreat into a fantasy-world of your own. Yet you [...]

You are a dyed-in-the-wool romantic, with a vision of love< which emerges straight from the world's great poetry and drama. The mundane dimension of relationship is not likely to enthuse you greatly, for you fear the death of your romantic vision at the hands of the trivia [...]

[pabianice]

Smells like bullshit to me. I recently ordered a copy of my birth certificate and got a certified copy of the original. And I'm a lot older than B. Hussein.

[ravingnutter]

If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.

FindLaw

And we don't know if his mother met this criteria

[MediaMole]

From my understanding, from III and up, it is not indicative of anything, but using II rather than Jr. indicates one of two things — illegitimacy or that a child was named for a close, living relative who was not his father.

[spacejunkie01]

maybe someone can call the state of HI and ask WHAT’S on a certificate....see if it matches.

[AmericaUnited]

Thanks, I just applied for 6 credit cards.

[MSMLies]

Obama’s parent religions are deleted from the Birth certificate. Look at the empty space below mother’s name. Also look at the empty space between father’s name

[gdani]

How do we know Obama's mother met this standard?

What does it matter? That is, it never applied to her in the first place.

[AmericaUnited]

I just tried and I got a recording that they are busy, call back.

Getting Information on Vital Records by Telephone

Information on issuance of certified copies of vital records, Apostilles, amendment of vital records, amended birth certificates (for adopted persons, etc.), and late registration may also be obtained via the telephone system, any day or any time, by calling (808) 586-4533.

[correctthought]

Looks lazer printed.

[kkalman]

And most of North Africa is Arab.