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A Libertarian Defense of Bob Marshall
JamesQuigley4Congress.com ^ | James Quigley

Posted on 03/11/2010 7:00:58 AM PST by DeuceTraveler

A Libertarian Defense of Delegate Bob Marshall

Lately, there has been a dangerous trend in this country to limit free speech, with calls for representatives to resign and administrative officials to be removed from office.  The latest example of this is occurring in Virginia after Republican Delegate Bob Marshall made a statement against the state funding of Planned Parenthood.  The transcript of his discussion had religious connotations that some have called ‘hate speech’ and there are calls for his resignation.   Mr. Bob Marshall was quoted as saying that the “number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion who have handicaps has increased dramatically…Because when you abort the first-born of any, Nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children. In the Old Testament, the first-born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest, and with the knowledge they have from faith has been verified by a study by the Virginia Commonwealth University. First abortions of the first pregnancy are much more damaging to the woman than latter abortions.”

Mr. Marshall is now under fire from his own political party, with Virginia’s Republican Governor Bob McDonnell taking a shot at the delegate, calling the delegate’s words offensive and wrong.  For a political party that beats its chest about supporting the Constitution, there seems to be a sudden lack of consideration for the 1st Amendment and Mr. Marshall’s right to free speech. The delegate identifies himself as a devout Catholic, and so his faith is going to shape his thoughts and beliefs. There are plenty of analogies in the bible of God punishing individuals and civilizations for not following the bible’s guidelines.  In addition to his religious views, Mr. Marshall also cites scientific data from Virginia Commonwealth University which has influenced his opinion. For Delegate Marshall to change his belief and thoughts on abortion when it comes to his personal studies and experiences is akin to asking him to toss away a portion of his own self-identity. This is why freedom of speech is so important, because it is connected to individualism as well as healthy political dialogue.  Instead of lampooning free speech, Governor McDonnell would have done us a better service by quoting Voltaire as I would have done, “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”

If Delegate Bob Marshall attempts to force his morality onto the population through legislation then it would be time for us to speak out against him. However, his fight against the state funding of Planned Parenthood should be supported.  The government forces taxpayers to participate in government-sponsored population control.  Taxpayers can decide to help change the laws that use their money to fund programs they are morally against, accept this state of affairs, or stop paying taxes and go to jail.  Legislative change is the only logical recourse to those who wish to object the usage of their taxpaying dollars.

Finally, I’m more concerned with a politician’s legislative record than his recorded transcripts. Recently, Delegate Bob Marshall pushed a bill to support states rights in regards to a takeover of health care by the Federal government.  This bill is called HB-10, the Virginia Healthcare Freedom Act (VHFA), and it states that "No law shall restrict an individual’s natural right and power of contract liberty to choose private health care systems or private plans."   Instead of taking his time to lampoon supporters of my natural rights, I’d rather see Governor McDonnell support Delegate Bob Marshall's right to free speech and HB-10 legislation.  While he is at it, the governor could also push his party hard to pass Democratic delegate Ward Armstrong's HB-651 and HB-652, which gives the individual greater protection from eminent domain.  Our representatives must aggressively restore individual rights, rather than actively denying them.

James Quigley - Chair of the Peninsula Libertarian Party (vplp.org) - Libertarian collecting petitions to appear on the ballot for the 3rd Congressional District of Virginia (jamesquigley4congress.com; jamesquigley4congress@gmail.com)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; US: Virginia
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I should have posted this here last week when I hit the blogs with it. Sorry it came so late.
1 posted on 03/11/2010 7:00:58 AM PST by DeuceTraveler
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To: DeuceTraveler
(sarc)Unpossible. We are continually told here on FR that Libertarians are no different than progressives/liberals on the abortion issue. This LP Party chairmen just said they are AGAINST abortion.

He must be a LINO. (/sarc)

2 posted on 03/11/2010 7:10:54 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: DeuceTraveler
For a political party that beats its chest about supporting the Constitution...

Since when???

3 posted on 03/11/2010 7:28:06 AM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: DeuceTraveler; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..
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4 posted on 03/11/2010 7:55:10 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: DeuceTraveler
Mr. Bob Marshall was quoted as saying that the “number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion who have handicaps has increased dramatically…

Is there science to support this statement ?

5 posted on 03/11/2010 8:05:53 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: kbennkc

According to this article VCU has done a study on this.


6 posted on 03/11/2010 9:58:53 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: DarthVader; kbennkc
"Is there science to support this?"

I can't find the specific study, but apparently Marshall apologized and this article suggests that Marshall may have somewhat exaggerated the risk:

"The VCU study he cited was published in 2008 in the Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health and suggested that there is a higher risk of premature birth and low birth weight in children borne by women who have had an abortion."

7 posted on 03/11/2010 10:13:14 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Dead Corpse
If Delegate Bob Marshall attempts to force his morality onto the population through legislation then it would be time for us to speak out against him. However, his fight against the state funding of Planned Parenthood should be supported.

libertarians are proabortion to the max, including partial birth (zero restrictions), they just don't want it to raise their taxes.

8 posted on 03/11/2010 11:37:17 AM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: Bokababe
Thanks . I have been curious about informed consent issues .
9 posted on 03/11/2010 11:41:46 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: DeuceTraveler
Here is a link that goes to the article.
10 posted on 03/11/2010 1:19:56 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: ansel12
libertarians are proabortion to the max,

Absolute nonsense.

They're just as evenly divided on the subject as the rest of the population.

How long are you going to keep up this lie?

Don't presume to tell us about your extensive experience with Libertarians and the Libertarian Party. Your asinine comments demonstrate that you're familiar with neither.

BTW, registered Libertarian since 1984.

11 posted on 03/11/2010 1:25:49 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
BTW, registered Libertarian since 1984.

Then you know that your party is the party of ZERO restrictions on abortion, none, nada, absolutely nothing to interfere with abortion.

Set abortion free and let it fly to the heavens.

12 posted on 03/11/2010 1:36:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: ansel12

Bullsh*t. But thanks for playing...


13 posted on 03/11/2010 2:10:51 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Dead Corpse

You don’t have a response because there isn’t one.


14 posted on 03/11/2010 2:46:05 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: ansel12
Then you know that your party is the party of ZERO restrictions on abortion, none, nada, absolutely nothing to interfere with abortion.

We also are the party of ZERO restrictions on transplant surgery, none, nada, absolutely nothing to interfere with transplant surgery.

We're also the party of ZERO restrictions on murder, none, nada, absolutely nothing to interfere with murder.</sarcasm>.

Point being that there are lots of issues not specifically spelled out in the Libertarian Party platform. Taking the lack of comment to mean either approval or disapproval is an unrealistic standard, which would fail the Repugnant party as well.

The issue of one political party's position on abortion is of exactly ZERO importance.

The Repugnant party has a Pro-life plank in it's platform, had the White House and both houses of congress for six of the last ten years, yet still did nothing about abortion.

Q.E.D., having a party platform position means nothing.

Whatever your problem is with Libertarians and the Libertarian Party, it doesn't originate with us.

15 posted on 03/11/2010 3:27:26 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

That didn’t make sense, ZERO RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION is part of the Libertarian party platform.


16 posted on 03/11/2010 3:43:27 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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