Posted on 09/19/2010 5:22:12 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, September 19th, 2010
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Karl Rove, former adviser to President George W. Bush.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Bill Clinton; former Secretary of State Colin Powell.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Bill Clinton.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C.; Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine; former Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va.; Anita Dunn, former Obama White House communications director
Look at his record without the hype and spin manufactured by the media about him
Under his leadership the GOP went from a majority in Congress to an absolute minority as well as losing the White House.
He won 2 Presidential elections, by the skin of his teeth, running a well know son of a former President who also happened to be a successful Texas Governor.
The GOP victories in 2002 had a lot more to do with the mood of the country 1 year after the 09-11 attacks then it did with anything Rove did.
He was completely, disastrously wrong in his tactics for both 2006 and 2008.
The only genuine genius one sees in Rove’s record is a genius for marketing his name.
Colin Powell and Newt are opportunists.....just sayin'
Maybe it's because we see a National political pundit calling the Tea Party stupid.
Or, maybe it's because we see someone using Democrat tactics (personal attacks) in smearing a candidate.
In any event, Rove has ruined his reputation with all but the Liberal establishment.
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
Where is the Obama Democrats plan like this? OH yea, they don't have one!
GOOD MORNING!
I’ll be back to read everyone’s wonderful comments.
I am only watching FNS to see Joe Miller, but *ugh* Rove is on first -— I planned to watch him anyway -— more about him later.
Blessed Sunday everybody!
Exactly, especially since the Old Media is so boringly predictable. We already know who they will go after and who will get serviced under the table.
NO I see Juan Williams more of a Forrest Gore Clone.
Good morning! I doubt there is anyone who was a bigger defender of this man over the last 8 years than me. So here I am to offer my mea culpa and tell you what I think.
My first disconnect with Rove was when I read his book. Much of the events that were so important to all of us over the last 10 years, beginning with the primaries and debates of 2000, followed by the hard-fought Florida recount with people demonstrating in protest to Gore all over the country (but especially DC), and then so many things throughout the Bush administration, were barely mentioned. Most of the book is a blur of names of politicians and elected officials, numbers of people who could be persuaded, state chairmen, blah. blah. blah. I am surprised that dang whiteboard wasn’t included as a special offer.
When I read Laura Bush’s book, Rove hardly got mentioned.
I got to thinking. Here is my theory.
Rove was a low-level operative in the RNC during Dad Bush’s term. He got sort of adopted by Lee Atwater and met George Bush at that time. When Dad Bush lost, Rove went back to Texas and did some political consulting on the local level.
Bush 43 remembered him from having met him in DC. He signed him up and Rove began working for the gubernatorial campaign.
Bush 43 is not a conceited person. We have had 8 years seeing that he gives credit to everyone else. I think he attributed his win in Texas to Rove’s advice and numbers calculations, so he used him in his presidential campaign.
Bush never considered that his win was due to his own personality, hard work, and essential nice-guy charisma.
He assumed it was because of Rove. So he kept Rove on in the White House and listened to him, because to Bush (not thinking he could have won otherwise) Rove WAS a genius.
How much bigger would Bush’s victories have been if someone else had run the campaigns?
How much influence did Rove’s advice have on policy and personnel decisions? For example, was Scott McClellan kept on as press secretary because Rove pushed for keeping him there?
How much did Rove’s advice sway certain domestic policy issues?
And now the $64 million dollar question: Was Castle’s campaign the first one “genius” Karl Rove advised without having a charismatic candidate like W? If so, we can see that he was a complete flop, and this explains his continued attacks on O’Donnell and the voters who elected her.
AND: Since Karl Rove was the one who persuaded Bush not to answer the charges that he lied about Iraq (lightning bolts shooting from my eyeballs when I read that), how much of the loss of Bush’s reputation was due to this decision?
I do not like finding out someone I defended for so long has neither appreciated the grass roots support he was given nor has the integrity to support a GOP candidate he is not getting a paycheck from. I have been very, very angry since Tuesday evening.
/rant
At 8 minutes after the hour on Meet the Press, Powell discussing immigration with Gregory, stated that ‘they’ are all over his house every time he needs anything to be done, and he is sure that the same thing occurs in the Gregory household.
What?????? Powell assumes that workers with accents are not legal, and furthermore, he doesn’t care.
That didn’t work very well for Linda Chavez back in 2001. I wonder if any mention of Powell’s comment will ever be made?
I second your emotion, and I read his book, too.
Same opinions! You said it very well.
One thing that fascinates me in speaking of the attributed Rove successes is the lack of mention of Karen Hughes. It almost seems that after she left, Bush's troubles began.
Just watched him on with Wallace.
Made my skin crawl.
McCain only did slightly better in 2008 with 36.93% of the vote. And O'Donnell was running against Biden, the sitting senator for 28 years.
Why isn't anyone asking Rove where was he in 2008 on this so-called flawed candidate, O'Donnell? The GOP establishment in Delaware seemed to believe she was qualified. I have yet to hear any of these airhead pundits on TV mention that she was the 2008 GOP candidate for senator in Delaware.
And she beat a former two time governor of Delaware and nine term Congressman to get the 2010 nomination. Sounds pretty impressive to me. It has an eerie similarity to someone who beat an incumbent governor in the primary and then won against a former Dem governor in the general election. The state: Alaska. The woman: Sarah Palin.
Shame on you for helping him do it.
Your side lost this one. Get over it.
All you are doing by continuing to engage in this slimming of the party endorsed candidate is setting up a lose-lose position for yourself
If O'Donnell loses, all we here are going to remember is you Rovebots continued with your slanderous misleading attacks after you candidate lost the primary.
We are going to point at YOU people as the reason she lost.
If she wins, we are going to remember that you did your best to sabotage this vital race.
This is a lose-lose position for you. You would be wise to seriously rethink your choice of tactics here.
SHOW US, Powell !!
Where is that birth certificate ??
Where are his college records ??
Who paid his college tuition ?
WHERE is his passport ??
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