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To: muawiyah
Conservatives better start paying attention. The police are agents of the state and have been militarized far beyond the requirement to do their jobs. When the police realize that there isn't enough tax payer dollars to pay for their lavish benefits and pensions what do you think is going to happen? If an out of control government declares martial law and sends these police door to door to round up guns (and they will have all the information they need to do it provided by the ATF from their illegally maintained database of firearms purchases, NFA weapon tax stamps, and local conceal carry permit records) what are "law and order" conservatives going to do then?

"Government is not reason, nor eloquence. It is force. And like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearsome master." -- George Washington

17 posted on 07/23/2012 7:26:26 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus
The police are agents of the state........an out of control government declares martial law and sends these police door to door to round up guns

I guess you should move to my small city then. No one in my department is an "agent of the [federal] state" nor are we going to take orders from said "federal state" to "round anyone up". I'm paid to enforce local and state laws, there is no law that exists that makes me a subordinate automaton to any federal entity. This isn't Europe, where the police are federal police. Here in the us the local & county police are separate from the us gov't.
In all likelihood the feds would attempt to subvert our police authority completely and probably issue a decree disbanding all local police in the USA. The black helicopters arrive and they're not going to go to the dumb beat cops and give them MIB credentials and secret alien equipment.
Anyway, I know of no police in the surrounding towns that would turn into evil decepticons and rape and pillage and kill the local citizenry like nazi ss if the Big Giant Obama Head suddenly told us to do so on our in-car computers.
21 posted on 07/23/2012 8:29:50 AM PDT by brent13a
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