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1 posted on 06/16/2016 5:54:13 PM PDT by TroutStalker
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Simply because it won’t work. They are already in American’s hands. Do they think words on a piece of paper will make them suddenly disappear?


2 posted on 06/16/2016 5:55:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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just make it a voice vote and declare the amendment failed...
sheesh...


3 posted on 06/16/2016 5:57:30 PM PDT by SteveH
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what we are trying to do is save lives.

Nancy, Nancy, Nancy...nobody is falling for your malarky anymore.

4 posted on 06/16/2016 5:57:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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They get traction out of blaming intransigent Republicans.


5 posted on 06/16/2016 5:59:20 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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Yeah, good luck enforcing it.


6 posted on 06/16/2016 5:59:59 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Ismael's descendants have been murdering since 1900 BC - it's "racist" to acknowledge that fact)
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Because they know that if they can get the Republicans to vote to suppress those on the terror watch list and no fly list then they can win. How? By simply increasing whom they want on the lists. Tea Party types, conservatives, just about everybody. Then try getting yourself off that list.


7 posted on 06/16/2016 6:00:52 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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. "What we are trying to do — and forget the politics — what we are trying to do is save lives.

No what you are now all doing is running a massive effort to distract from the fact that Trump has been on target all along and Hillary has and will continue to enable the terrorists.

Stay focused everyone

8 posted on 06/16/2016 6:00:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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a measure that might have actually prevented Sunday morning’s carnage in Orlando: an assault weapons ban

Like in Paris? Like in Brussels?

13 posted on 06/16/2016 6:03:20 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The polls can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)
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But Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi nixed it. Better, she said, to focus on barring terror suspects from buying guns. That measure’s a no-brainer for Democrats, she reasoned, and easier to explain to the public. - Said Pelosi?

MEDIC! Something is wrong! @#$%&!

15 posted on 06/16/2016 6:06:08 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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Ulmer said that background checks are the key to....

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Universal background checks are code for making every transfer of a firearm illegal unless reported to the government.
Backdoor registration.
They can’t confiscate until they know where they are.


17 posted on 06/16/2016 6:08:15 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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These jackazzes just don't get. If they're that bigova risk, why the hell are they even in the country? Obummer and his minions own this thing from last weekend and they're doing everything they can to shirk it off on anyone else and exploit any political gain available.
There's absolutely nothing "common sense" or reasonable about them. d:^|
19 posted on 06/16/2016 6:09:07 PM PDT by CopperTop
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Like everything else there will be scope creep. Even if you forget the lack of due process around the watch list consider how the IRS and the SPLC treat the TEA party.

Joe the Plumber and the like would be on the no-gun list for the same reaspn - some nazi bureaucrat would dislike them and go after them.


22 posted on 06/16/2016 6:12:26 PM PDT by fruser1
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Taking away people’s rights because they are on Obama’s terror list ? Not thanks.

Both parties are enemies of the people.


25 posted on 06/16/2016 6:20:06 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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Before Orlando, our worst mass shooting was at Virginia Tech in 2007. 33 dead, 23 injured. The shooter, Cho, did not use so-called assault weapons. He used 2 handguns, a Walther .22lr pistol and a Glock 9mm pistol with 10 and 15 round magazines.


28 posted on 06/16/2016 6:32:56 PM PDT by umgud (ban muslims, not guns)
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Those advocating “no fly, no buy” need to consider unintended consequences: that will subject “no fly” to the spotlight of due process & other established rights, likely eliminating “no fly”.


30 posted on 06/16/2016 6:35:33 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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If they pass a ban simply redesign them into pump rifles or lever action rifles as Ruger did years ago when it looked like Congress was going for a ban.


31 posted on 06/16/2016 6:37:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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push a measure that might have actually prevented Sunday morning’s carnage in Orlando...

Well, no, and that's the problem. No only was the shooter NOT on the FBI list anymore, he had credentials as a licensed security guard. Even with an AWB he'd have gotten his gun.

And again, the gun prohibitionists refuse to face the truth: that this activity is not supported by any majority of the American public as they repeatedly claim, it is rejected by the vast majority. The mere fact that these pushes only come in times of emotional stress over a spectacular event is evidence to this. If an AWB were that popular it'd be law by now.

What would have prevented this is keeping his nutcase father from immigrating. And they refuse to go there.

32 posted on 06/16/2016 6:41:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Convert the “No-Fly” terrorist watch list into a “fly once out of the country and never come back” list.

Problem solved. No need to add “no-guns” to the list title.


33 posted on 06/16/2016 6:49:46 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Mohammed was a war mongering pedophile rapist who started a Satanic death cult. Arrest me, Lynch.)
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Bigots who hate the Constitution.


34 posted on 06/16/2016 6:51:50 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper ((Just say no to HRC))
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Substitute "assault weapon" for "radical Islamists" in Barry's remark. Make a few other adjustments. Why does he insist on this particular label, "assault weapons?" There is no magic to the phrase, it's a political talking point. It's not a strategy.

That's the key, they tell us -- we can't beat ISIL unless we call them "radical Islamists." What exactly would using this label accomplish? What exactly would it change? Would it make ISIL less committed to trying to kill Americans? Would it bring in more allies? Is there a military strategy that is served by this? The answer is none of the above. Calling a threat by a different name does not make it go away. ...

So there's no magic to the phrase "radical Islam." It's a political talking point; it's not a strategy.


38 posted on 06/16/2016 7:02:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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