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When did driving become a problem that needs to be solved?
TheTribune ^ | 02/06/2019 | Tim Jackson

Posted on 02/07/2019 12:51:55 PM PST by ppaul

A fundamentally American freedom is under attack. The automobile defined the 20th century in the United States. Mass production made cars available to the nation's middle class and helped create the modern suburb, where most Americans now live. Driving became part of coming of age in America...Meanwhile, some cities have put their drivers on forced road diets. They are reducing lanes available to drivers on key arterial streets...The goal is to discourage driving by intentionally reducing capacity and creating traffic congestion by design...The bottom line is they want to force more residents to use alternative transportation by making driving as unpleasant as possible. Since when did the automobile, which helped drive this nation's development and success, become a public enemy?

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: agenda21; auto; automobile; automotive; climate; roaddiets; traffic; transportation
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To: ppaul

All part and parcel of Agenda 21 - now Agenda 32?? Or something .... more bike lanes, fewer car lanes, squeeze people into smaller housing in bigger groupings, make it so people have to use buses, keep them in a tight circle of work, home and shopping.

Lots of info out there, here’s one:

“Bicycle paths are being built everywhere , downtowns are closed to traffic completely, streets are narrowed to make driving more inconvenient, parking lots are eliminated, parking garages charge exorbitant fees, and high-rises are built without any parking spaces, all in an effort to discourage Americans to own a car and eventually to force them into public transportation” .....

“I am familiar with the proletariat masses having no cars during my years of living under a communist regime. We stayed close to home, within a 40 mile radius by bus or train, or as far as we could bike, or our feet could carry us. But the ruling elite had chauffeurs, elegant cars, and planes at their disposal.

Progressives are telling us or forcing us to tighten our carbon foot print belts, to use less water, less air conditioning, less electricity, to eat less meat, drive tin can Smart Cars, and build tiny apartments, while they live in mega mansions by the sea, sail in huge yachts, ride in limos, jet around the world to resorts and climate change conferences, and own many expensive cars running on fossil fuels”....

https://canadafreepress.com/article/agenda-21-2030-and-sustainable-development


21 posted on 02/07/2019 1:16:41 PM PST by CaptainPhilFan
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To: rlmorel

Nissan has been having some MAJOR problems with their cvt’s. An Atlanta news station did a bit about a woman that had to have her’s replaced 3 times back before Christmas!
You could not pay me to have one! Guess I’ll just keep my old truck as long as I can find someone to rebuild it or the wheels fall off...


22 posted on 02/07/2019 1:20:19 PM PST by snuffy smiff (Build the Wall and build it tall, then build a gallows and hang them ALL!)
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To: LostInBayport
”I can’t understand it. I couldn’t wait to drive.”

I had my Private Pilot rating before I had my driver’s license. Soloed in sailplanes at 15 and had my license at 16. Got around to getting my driver’s license a couple of weeks after that, but ironically my parents had to drive me to my check ride. I was just so focused on flying that driving wasn’t such an immediate concern.

I find myself observing kids around that age today and thinking about whether I believe they would be capable of acting as pilot in command of an aircraft. With the exception of a number of conservative kids I know, the answer is universally “Not a chance.”

23 posted on 02/07/2019 1:20:44 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: ppaul
The short answer would be when Paul R. Ehrlich published The Population Bomb in 1968. This is one of the steps to Agenda 21, which many Freepers have insisted doesn't exist just like a globalist plan to overwhelm American Voters with third world socialist imports doesn't exist.
24 posted on 02/07/2019 1:21:18 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: NorthMountain

I will drive my 5 speed Mustang Mach 1 until I can’t push in the clutch any more.


25 posted on 02/07/2019 1:21:46 PM PST by certrtwngnut (4- Do something,,,,even if it's wrong.)
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To: blueunicorn6

It wasn’t the top end speed, it was the responsiveness at slow speeds that was awful. It was completely sluggish (to me)

I guess if it did have overdrive the CVT might be geared differently, giving better performance at low speeds because it doesn’t have to make that engineering sacrifice for the top end speed?


26 posted on 02/07/2019 1:25:21 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: snuffy smiff

Eeek! That DOES sound problematic.


27 posted on 02/07/2019 1:25:51 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: ppaul

When Al Gore said that the invention of the internal combustion engine was the worst thing man ever did.


28 posted on 02/07/2019 1:26:46 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Vote your bible.)
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To: Da Coyote

Liberals want middle class whites stuck on mobile crime scenes with their shock troops.


29 posted on 02/07/2019 1:27:40 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: blueunicorn6

CVTs aren’t going to be in any vehicle with performance appeal any time soon.

A broader range of ‘gears’ and lower friction add an mpg or two. That’s the appeal. Cars have become appliances like toasters.


30 posted on 02/07/2019 1:35:36 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: rlmorel

I’m sorry.

I was joshing with you.

I believe a CVT uses chains or belts.

When I was a kid, my friends and I thought that overdrive was some kind of magic that made a car go really fast.

To the best of my limited automotive knowledge, a CVT doesn’t have an overdrive.

I keep forgetting that not everybody is as weird as me.


31 posted on 02/07/2019 1:37:54 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ppaul

On the political plane, the elites think “mass transit” has not gone far enough to move people into living in high density urban human-bee hives. The hive mentality had not expanded enough. More people MUST be moved into it.

On a deeper plane, maybe, according to Metallicman, there is one race of “extraterrestials” that many human governments are actually familiar with and cooperating with, which operates in a manner humans would see as a hive metality and is said to have not individual souls but a single “master soul”. Metallicman cliams the U.S. deep state is working with those extraterrestials. I make no claims of my own about the subjwect, only reporting from the articles of Metallicman. Go judge for yourself.


32 posted on 02/07/2019 1:43:08 PM PST by Wuli
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To: ppaul

Forcing the use of public transportation is a key ingredient of then forcing all the wrong-minded people to go to re-education camps.


33 posted on 02/07/2019 1:48:06 PM PST by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: blueunicorn6

I currently drive a 2016 Scion (neé Toyota) iM hatchback with a CVT. Yes, it does take some getting used to, but I do get 38 mpg on the freeway and acceleration is good up to 85 mph.


34 posted on 02/07/2019 1:49:14 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: blueunicorn6

I believe most CVTs are overdrive in their highest range.


35 posted on 02/07/2019 1:49:45 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: ppaul
The difficulty in getting from Point A to Point B--regardless of the distance--is one of the chief reasons I am eager to move out of NYC. Bloomberg started the Euro-clone for driving and DumblASSio is filling in the unfinished areas of the You Must Not Drive A Car blueprint as quickly as possible. NYC must hire the bottom of the class of street engineers, individuals who are also high while designing.

Perfectly serviceable left hand turn lanes have been eliminated for no discernible reason, necessitating drivers to drive past the street they want to turn left onto, for many blocks, and then execute a U turn to to the opposite direction so they can turn right. What a pain, right?

And then there are the useless bike lanes that no one seems to use. A perfectly good and vital traffic lane was eliminated to make room for these stupid bike lanes.

The streets have many potholes, waves in the asphalt, ridges that cause anything in the car to jump if you exceed 5 mph going over them, etc., making them unpleasant to drive; often you can't even drive the speed limit lest you want to damage your car. Yesterday I drove a long stretch of the Belt Parkway at night, with NO street lights functioning at all. Most of NYC's streets have the lane markings worn off, not being replaced, making it nearly impossible for you to know what lane you're in. Plenty of people give up and just drift their enormous SUV right in front of your little car.

There are numerous construction sites, particularly on the Van Wyck expressway where you rarely, even on fine weather days, see ANYONE working. So the inconvenience and squeezed lanes persist for years, obstructing the flow of traffic. Doesn't anyone check to see if these people are actually working?

The latest slap in the face to drivers is the painting of the right hand lanes on major thoroughfares completely red; those are now for buses only. You know how congested streets are when a lane is temporarily taken out of circulation by construction posts while they're doing some construction on it? Two lanes must carry the traffic of three? How would you like that as a PERMANENT condition now? Bumper to bumper is what ensues.

Then, we've had "alternate parking days" for years, wherein you are not allowed to park on given sides of the street on given days during given hours. For example, we have no parking allowed on Thursday during the hours of X to Y, and Friday during the hours of W to Z. Parking there during those hours = big fat cash cow ticket. So it's a scramble and a major pain to find parking on the "right" side of the street on those days. My neighbor came out of the building twice this week to find me sitting in my car, waiting for someone to pull out and vacate a space. Took more than 30 minutes the first night, 20 minutes the second night. You just bought groceries, you are tired, you just want to go into your home, put away the groceries and relax. NOT IN NYC! You are forced, against your will, to circle the block 5 times and/or sit in your car and wait for someone to pull out. Then, you pounce like a panther on the now vacant spot before someone else comes along. This is not in Manhattan, this is in Queens, one of the "outer boroughs". Doesn't matter. I told my neighbor it's like living like a sewer rat and I didn't want to put up with this any more.

36 posted on 02/07/2019 1:50:17 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: ppaul

This is why I live in the country. Screw big cities. They’re usually dem crapholes in the first place.

CC


37 posted on 02/07/2019 1:53:53 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Ouderkirk

“they want the people out of the suburbs and back in to the cities where they can control them more easily.”

That’s the ticket. It would take a major change in thinking before there would ever be public transportation out in the boonies where I live. They recently converted two lanes of a six lane major road in the downtown area to bicycle lanes. I have yet to see a suicidal biker in the bike lanes.


38 posted on 02/07/2019 2:02:20 PM PST by suthener
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To: jjotto

Yeah!

Sure!

But you’re probably a Doctor Of Automobile Shifting or something.

I’m just a poor, uninformed amateur.

All I know is you step on that thing.....the accumulator or something.....and the car goes.

I suppose I could have learned more about cars.

Here’s what my Dad taught me about cars:

“Damnit! Hold that flashlight still!”


39 posted on 02/07/2019 2:07:03 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: noiseman
I find myself observing kids around that age today and thinking about whether I believe they would be capable of acting as pilot in command of an aircraft. With the exception of a number of conservative kids I know, the answer is universally “Not a chance.”

We had a different youth. For some reason the other day as I was trudging through snow and ice my mind flashed back when I was a kid, probably not even a teenager yet, and my friends and I would ride off on snowmobiles for hours. Not only would our parents get arrested for that today, but I wonder if kids would even want to have that kind of adventure.
40 posted on 02/07/2019 2:24:53 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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