Posted on 06/09/2020 12:32:29 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
Texas has reported two consecutive days of record-breaking Covid-19 hospitalizations as the state continues to open businesses and resume activities that were temporarily shuttered due to the coronavirus.
There are currently 2,056 patients sickened with Covid-19 in hospitals across the state as of early Tuesday afternoon, up from a record 1,935 patients Monday, according to updated data from the Texas Department of State Health Services.
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“More testing equals more cases and more cases equals more hospitalizations”
That is an “iffy” analysis.
Most people who test positive for the virus are not hospitalized. They are sent home to self quarantine. Hospitalizations are based on health symptoms (difficulty breathing, etc), not test status.
So what? The system overwhelmed? We do not close the country until every last damned case is snuffed out.
An extra 121 hospitalizations in the entire state — throw out the dead, lock yourselves in, and put your stale air masks back on.
Numbers were flat after reopening phases began. Now a few days of spikes following riots. But let’s blame it on the businesses anyway.
Clutch your pearls a little tighter if it makes you feel safer.
“So what? The system overwhelmed?”
Actually there are real world issues. Take elective surgeries for instance. Governor re-opened elective surgeries as long as a certain percentage of hospital beds remain available for virus patients.
Elective surgeries could be shut down again in Texas within the next couple of weeks if hospitalizations continue increasing at the current rate.
This isn’t be guessing, my wife’s hospital recently told her that.
Get rid of the Fedgov’s $13k/39k bounty on Wuflu patients, and this scamdemic will cure itself a lot quicker.
“Clutch your pearls a little tighter if it makes you feel safer.”
Sorry, I don’t own any pearls.
I’m safe at my home. Don’t worry about me. The Democratic Party protesters/rioters are the ones who will end up in the hospital.
How many of the hospitalized were hospitalized due to COVID-19 alone versus some other condition?
My aunt has a friend who had heart valve surgery scheduled months ago and had to have it cancelled due to COVID-19. She has it rescheduled and has to have a COVID-19 test this week prior to the surgery. But she really needs the surgery.
There is a chance they will go ahead with the surgery even if she tests positive, as long as she isn’t really sick with COVID-19, because she has gone too long without the surgery and her heart is getting weaker.
So how many people are hospitalized WITH COVID-19 but NOT BECAUSe OF IT? Instead, something else is causing them to be hospitalized, such as that rod in their leg that really should have come out two months ago and they happened to test positive for COVID-19.
Maybe some of these people are kept overnight for a surgery that would be outpatient normally merely because they tested positive and the doctor wants a little extra monitoring of them.
that math is lame. There are over 400 hospitals in Texas. so there’s about 5 people per hospital with Covid, covid like symptoms or gunshot wounds identifying as Covid?
CNBC is probably cherry picking the data to come up with the anti-Trump issue. For those of us in Florida, the State provides a lot of data.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/action/report_archive/state/state_reports_latest.pdf
Here are some numbers indicating there has been no discernible increase in cases since we began opening up Florida on May 1.
What has increased significantly is the number of testings.
During the week May 26 thru Jun 1 there were 5,300 new cases that week and 163,000 tests that week. Or in percent terms 3.25% of those tested were new cases.
During the week Jun 2 thru Jun 8 there were 8,300 new case that week and 258,000 tests that week. Or in percent terms 3.22% of those tested were new cases.
I’m not sure a hospital is going to allow someone to be hospitalized just because they test positive. You have to have symptoms that require hospitalization, to get admitted to a hospital. I don’t think they are counting ER visits, only cases where the patients are admitted.
Now, it may be the case that, because there are enough beds, doctors are admitting at-risk patients who test positive, even if they don’t currently have symptoms warranting, just so they can be watched, because the onset of severe distress happens so quickly.
The problem is that our statistics that we are using are useless. We don’t know what they actually mean, because we don’t have all of this information.
“Texas reports two consecutive days of record coronavirus hospitalizations after protests”
There. Fixed it.
Statistical noise.
I do wonder though if people who are hospitalized for other reasons, and then test positive, are counted.
Seems to me that is how the numbers would be calculated.
Reminds me of the old “died with” vs “died of “covid argument about death numbers.
People are back to their old ways and are, no doubt, having the usual car crashes etc.
Food processors do seem to be going through a time though.
“My aunt has a friend who had heart valve surgery scheduled months ago and had to have it cancelled due to COVID-19. She has it rescheduled and has to have a COVID-19 test this week prior to the surgery. But she really needs the surgery.”
I believe Gov. Abbott required hospitals to have 25% spare bed capacity to reopen for elective surgeries. Texas is currently at 71% utilization. So 29% open. So getting close to 25% though.
The requirement is per hospital. So some hospitals could shut down for elective surgeries, but not others.
So your Aunt’s friend could change hospitals if the friend’s hospital shuts down elective surgeries again. Anther option is for the doctors to say the procedure isn’t “elective” but really required. At my wife’s hospital, there are papers that doctors can sign saying the surgery is necessary.
“”””Governor re-opened elective surgeries””””
And when elective surgeries are done, some of those folks end up in ICU for a day or two as they recover.
Hence, the elective surgeries will result in more ICU beds being occupied.
Keep in mind that CNBC did not say the increase in ICU bed occupancy was because the beds were being filled with COVID patients.
It isn’t second wave it’s first wave. Lock downs just spread out the infections never intended to to reduce the total number. Just spread them out.
Bending the curve doesn’t reduce the overall number. Just spreads them out to avoid system being overwhelmed.
I agree regarding the lack of data. It’s incredibly frustrating.
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