Incandescent light bulbs being phased out to save energy

The Associated Press ^ | April 26, 2022 | By MATTHEW DALY

[Oldeconomybuyer]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration is scrapping old-fashioned incandescent light bulbs, speeding an ongoing trend toward more efficient lighting that officials say will save households, schools and businesses billions of dollars a year.

Rules finalized by the Energy Department will require manufacturers to sell energy-efficient light bulbs, accelerating a longtime industry practice to use compact fluorescent and LED bulbs that last 25 to 50 times longer than incandescent bulbs. The Trump administration had slowed an earlier phaseout of incandescents, saying it was targeting rules that burden businesses.

Once the new rules are fully in place next year, consumers should save nearly $3 billion per year on their utility bills, the Energy Department said. The rules are projected to cut planet-warming carbon emissions by 222 million metric tons over the next 30 years, an amount equivalent to emissions generated by 28 million homes in one year, officials said.

The new rules expand energy-efficiency requirements to more types of light bulbs and ban sale of bulbs that produce less than 45 lumens per watt — a measure of how much light is emitted for each unit of electricity.

The Trump administration in 2019 had slowed a years-long push by Congress and past administrations to switch Americans to LED bulbs and other lighting that uses less electricity. Former President Donald Trump said in September 2019 that the Energy Department canceled a pending phaseout of incandescent bulbs because “what’s saved is not worth it.”

[aquila48]

“That said, at my stage in life I can figure what type of light bulb I want to use.”

Hey, you’re free to do as you please. You want to burn ten dollar bills, be my guest. People are free to do dumb things.

So what kind of light bulbs do you use?

[hoosierham]

As an early adopter of CFL and LED I’ve been pleased with reduced electric use but dismayed by short life of both. The $7 CFL nor the $3.50 LED have resulted in overall saving. What I saved in electric I spent on the lights. Incandescent bulbs were simple and cheap. And the monochromatic LED not the strobing fluorescent are good for one’s eyes.

[algore]

“Candles use wax which requires petroleum to manufacture.”

I guess you have never heard of Bees ?

having lots of bees might even be good for the environment .

[jjotto]

You mean honeybees, not native to North America and displace native species? Those bees?

[cuban leaf]

A bill doesn’t become a law until the executive signs it.

[cuban leaf]

OH crap! I have a collection. I need to buy up a lifetime supply of 40 watters!

[aquila48]

My experience has been different. I’ve replaced all the lights in the house with LEDs over the past couple of years and they’re all still working. Didn’t care to much for fluorescent lights.

The LEDs use about one eight the electricity of incandescents. If you have the equivalent of 6 60 watt bulbs running for twelve hours per day, that’s over 4kwh per day.

In California electricity is around 40c/kwh. That means that in just one day it would cost $1.60 using incandescent vs 20 cents using leds.

Over a year, that’s a saving of $511. Seems like a no brainer.

[EVO X]

So what kind of light bulbs do you use?

About 90% Led bulbs. That said I have a 13 year car that averages 20 miles to the gallon at best and have have a smoking hot 14 year old plasma TV that consumes 500 Watts per hour while in use.

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

One one hand, LEDs are way better than incandescents. They are brighter, use less juice, last way longer and don’t make waste heat. That’s all I buy anymore. The higher price is worth it to me.

On the other hand the gov’t has no business picking winners and losers in the free market.

[Texas Fossil]

I opened one of the bulbs, they have some powerful LED clusters. I’ve kept them with the thought to series parallel them to use with 12 volt DC application. (I’m an old ham op)

Used with DC low voltage power supply they are pretty efficient light source. But the efficiency in the power supply for the 110vac power source fails often and runs very hot.

[Texas Fossil]

So do I.

It is hard to read by most of them.

[aquila48]

Smart choice!

I use LEDs too, and my TV is LED also, but I hardly ever watch it. The content is crap regardless of the “bulbs” it uses.

[minnesota_bound]

LED bulbs come in different colors. You can have the Incandescent color if you like. You can buy lamps that have a range of colors or an individual bulb with the color of your choice.

I use 5000k high noon daylight LED light bulbs 1600 lumen nearly equivalent to the old 100 watt bulbs. I like that they last years and do not heat up the room. My A/C does not have to work so hard. I made a change maybe 3 to 4 years ago and have only had 3 bulbs stop working vs one a month for 100 watt Incandescent.

I can also buy a splitter to my floor lamps and add 2 A21 2500 lumen for more light and only use 46 watts.
Example of two floor lamps with a total of 4 LED bulbs = 92 watts and the room is much cooler and brighter.

A19 15 watt bulbs = 100 watt bulbs - see the color choices.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NC63KXZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

A21 23 watt bulbs 2500 lumen = 150 watt bulbs
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08723X9Q8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

E26 Socket Splitter Adapter
https://www.amazon.com/Socket-Splitter-Adapter-Standard-Holder/dp/B088LT5BF1/ref=sr_1_5?crid=JACG2QGGUTLJ&keywords=Light+Bulb+Socket+Splitter+For+LED&qid=1651033408&s=hi&sprefix=light+bulb+socket+splitter+for+led%2Ctools%2C107&sr=1-5

I remember the Incandescent bulbs would making a loud POP noise when they failed as I turned the light switch on. Scared me every time : )

[Stand Watch Listen]

you need 100w and 3 way bulbs.
I was in sweden in the early 80s and you could not buy anything over 60w

I've had a number of 3 way switches/sockets go "bad". Bought dimmable sockets with dimmable led light bulbs (light from barely discernable to 250W equivalent). Working great for >2.5 years.

[mewzilla]

No, we want choice, if it’s available.

Or are you cool with Deep State to telling you what you can illuminate with, heat with, cook with, drive...

The reason I prefer incandescents is because with my eye issues, they still work better for me than every LED bulb I have tried. And I’ve wasted a lot of money on those damn things.

[Red Badger]

I predict that in 10-20 years, we will have a huge epidemic of cataracts from all the UV coming from LED bulbs and other sources.........................

[hoosierham]

And I think the 23cents kwh we pay is high.

Which it is compared to the 2cents we paid in the 1970

[imardmd1]

I predict that in 10-20 years, we will have a huge epidemic of cataracts from all the UV coming from LED bulbs and other sources

No UV, RB. Here's the graph from an article as follows?

(from NLPIP Lighting Answers vol. 7 issue 3 May 2003)

How is white light made with LEDs?

Presently, there are two approaches to creating white light.

Mixed-color white light: One approach is to mix the light from several colored LEDs (Figure 4) to create a spectral power distribution that appears white. Similarly, so-called tri-phosphor fluorescent lamps use three phosphors, each emitting a relatively narrow spectrum of blue, green or red light upon receiving ultraviolet radiation from the mercury arc in the lamp tube. By locating red, green and blue LEDs adjacent to one another, and properly mixing the amount of their output (Zhao et al. 2002), the resulting light is white in appearance.

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Figure 5. Spectral power distributions of early phosphor-based white LEDs (left), and white LEDs using more recently developed phosphors (right) with increased output between 600 and 650 nanometers.

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[PTBAA]

Let’s phase out electric cars to save energy.

[Jim Noble]

The rules are projected to cut planet-warming carbon emissions

You really have to laugh.