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This is the year for a Ross Perot
The Hil ^ | 08/23/2023 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 08/23/2023 5:51:16 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

In 1992, a Texas billionaire had had enough with both parties and decided to use his considerable fortune to run for president as an independent.

The billionaire part might have been unique, but the third party part wasn’t, every election cycle, there are third party candidates who manage to get their names on the ballot. Most don’t amount to anything and history quickly forgets them. But 1992 was different. H. Ross Perot was different.

Maybe Perot just came along 32 years too early.

Things are far from set for the 2024 election, but at this point, it sure looks like it’s shaping up to be a contest between the two least popular options — a repeat of 2020.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2024; perot; this; year
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If Perot could have won the general election as a third party candidate, then he could have EASILY won the primary of whichever party he was most in agreement with, and then would have won the general.

ZERO benefit to rinning as a third party, but horrible damage: He split the conservative vote in the general election allowing Bill Clinton to win even though conservatives outnumbered his supporters.

The WINNING strategy, which Trump has already demonstrated, is WIN the primary, win the party, win the election.

Third parties throw easy election victories to the major party they are least affiliated with.

Splitting the votes of conservatives is how conservatives keep getting defeated, both in the primaries and general elections. WISE UP and stop falling for it, and make the people who dont’t understand that is what has been happening realize that is EXACTLY what has been happening, both inside and outside the GOP.

...that is hard to make some people see.

It is FAR easier to fool someone than convince them that they have been fooled.


21 posted on 08/23/2023 6:27:02 AM PDT by OHelix ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The ‘sucking sound’ that Perot was hearing in 1992 has turned into a ‘roar’ under Biden.


22 posted on 08/23/2023 6:28:17 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: BigFreakinToad
--- "Nope, 3rd party splits the useless republican party which will guarantee a democrat majority, cheating or not."

That seems sort correct-ish.

But in the moment, we have RINOs a plenty aligned with Democrats on many things.

A "useless" Republican Party -- please note the equivalency -- is a useless Republican Party.

A disruption in either party would be welcome, to my view. Trump and RFK Jr rising to actual candidacy would cause many, many heads to explode. And the bureaucratic, deep state to act out, I would think, in ways as yet not seen.

23 posted on 08/23/2023 6:34:53 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I support a third party candidate!

As long as its a Democrat!


24 posted on 08/23/2023 6:37:34 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: dfwgator

Big deal, the anti-gun, pro-abortion lefty did what he did to America on purpose, to get a democrat into the White House, and his fortune was made from government work.

His folksy ways and accent suckered you guys and you didn’t see the lefty billionaire kingmaker behind it.


25 posted on 08/23/2023 6:41:23 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Tulsi would really make their heads explode. I’ve been watching her videos from Maui, I must say I am more impressed with her with each passing day.

Of course there’s a lot I disagree with her on, but then again, I disagree on a lot of things with every politician out there (including Trump, whom as of now I still support).


26 posted on 08/23/2023 6:42:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

i voted for perot, twice... he didn’t give us clinton, those who voted for the establishment GHWB did... perot supporters saw early that the establishment new world order was a bad thing...

quit projecting your self hate onto perot supporters.


27 posted on 08/23/2023 6:43:47 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ross Perot got 19% of the vote ...

A lot of very nice people voted for him...


28 posted on 08/23/2023 6:46:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: FlipWilson

That’s why the media and left are ghosting RFK Jr.


29 posted on 08/23/2023 6:48:47 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Tennessee Nana

Wish I did.

Bushes and Clintons, for all intents and purposes, are the same family.


30 posted on 08/23/2023 6:49:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: teeman8r

How did people who voted for Bush in 1992 give us Clinton? They didn’t vote for Clinton, they voted for Bush.


31 posted on 08/23/2023 6:52:59 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: janetjanet998

Nothing he says in that video was wrong and most of the problems have gotten worse. I think he was a little naive in believing that all the income would go to what he envisioned, but his ideas were sound. You just can’t deny human nature and the intransigence of entrenched bureaucracies.


32 posted on 08/23/2023 6:55:36 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

We as citizens are in a deep deep pit of $h!t


33 posted on 08/23/2023 6:57:51 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Biden whispered "Don't Jump")
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To: dfwgator
--- "... but then again, I disagree on a lot of things with every politician out there (including Trump, whom as of now I still support)."

As the silly season nears courtesy on non-stop politicking, when pressed as to my favorite candidate, I respond "disruption."

The local and official party types are consistently confused on both sides. "What! You don't trust us?" Such a response by the few who've been in that little, local political comedy has been amusing.

I worked in Belgium during that period when the politicians couldn't form an actual government, and things went along fine and fine enough. Happened twice, by the way, and Belgium is the most recent champ in this regard. Great and many kinds of pâté, I must say.

It was a lesson in the ways of the world.

Similarly with those few avid Democrats I still know, each time they complain about energy prices and such, I say "you voted for it." They are oddly unwilling to hear that....

34 posted on 08/23/2023 7:02:50 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It is NOT a year for a third party deal breaker. The dems always stay on the reservation and circle the wagons around their candidate. A third party candidate will only guarantee four more years of Biden. Which, the cheat is already in place, so third party or not, the fix is in place.


35 posted on 08/23/2023 7:03:05 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Read my lips-no new taxes” gave us Clinton.


36 posted on 08/23/2023 7:10:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: Fresh Wind

Looking at his watch during the debate gave us Clinton. As if he threw that race intentionally.


37 posted on 08/23/2023 7:11:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ansel12
People didn’t realize how left-wing Perot was, they fell for his folksy act.

Rush Limbaugh was on to him right away.

38 posted on 08/23/2023 7:12:13 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: BigFreakinToad
--- "We as citizens are in a deep deep pit of $h!t"

I hope you are well, stay well and are out of debt. And are not too near an inner city....

We watched the Berlin wall fall and knew many lovely "East" Germans who managed to adapt after a "collapse." In a similar way and without involving myself in any of the malarkey going on in some threads here, The Soviet Union's dissolution -- a "collapse" -- is replaced by a Russia today able, like it or not, to engage in Ukraine as it is. Restructure after a collapse is the normal human behavior.

So, here I watch a collapse in slow motion -- thinking of the famous Hemingway quote -- in San Francisco, wherein REITs are in trouble, businesses collapse or move away, tourism wanes, real estate prices for "distressed" mortgages drop, and all should been seen as a regional collapse. Rather like East Germany. The difference is that East Germany is no more, while the current political class in San Francisco cling on. When collapse is further along, those who caused it will shrink away. If it takes generations, one only need think of the Bolshevik "revolution" which lasted so many decades.

A state can wither, and yet a citizenry survive. It is THE state which is so often the cause of much misery, debt and war.

Of the collapse of the USSR, one feature to that collapse is often ignored. The Soviet dent simply disappeared. There are some conservative economists who argue -- and argu well -- that we can "disappear" the Fed and the national debt. Not without disruption of course, but nonetheless.... Collapse is not to be feared. In the case of San Francisco it is to be observed in real time.

39 posted on 08/23/2023 7:14:14 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: dfwgator

Looking at his watch during the debate gave us Clinton. As if he threw that race intentionally.

That kinda sounds like what McCain and Romney did for us.

40 posted on 08/23/2023 7:18:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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