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Having A Change Of Heart About Trump

Posted on 08/30/2023 9:51:57 AM PDT by redheadedshannon

I expected after the 2020 election & the multiple disappointments since, that as the primary season leading up to 2024 lingered on, I would find myself supporting somebody other than Trump. I happily voted for him in both elections & certainly loved his America First stances that should always have been part of conservative orthodoxy. Reducing immigration, favoring the Americsn worker & only supporting trade that benefits the people of this nation.

His arrival on the political stage happened at a time when the only brand of Conservatism that was allowed by elites was the big business, corporate, tax cutting type that constantly involved us in foreign wars, supported mass third world immigration for the cheap labor express and wanted an internationalist future. They were always the weakest strain that never seemed willing to fight back.

His election was thrilling & it meant the world to all of us who wanted leaders that actually stood up to leftist bullies & the media. His staffing choices were never the greatest and Lord knows he underestimated the opposition, but it was impossible not to be thankful for a Trump Presidency. How awful would a President Hillary Clinton have been? We needed him there.

The one space that I could never seem to force myself into was being an apologist that silenced any criticisms. I was never going to be the girl that was unfailingly supportive of any political figure. His biggest supporters always seemed to go overboard on making everything about loyalty to him. The argumentative stance they took seemed to shout down any questions or reservations from fellow conservatives. It still goes on & isn't productive. Criticism would help to hone his political stances & make him tougher to beat. He proved not to be amazing at helping pick candidates that would win elections.

After consistent losses for Republicans in 2020 and 2022, we were presented with a question of who should be the leader in the 2024 Presidential race. Was it time to choose a new standard bearer? Many of us were thrilled with the lopsided Florida elections that won majorities of Hispanics and other elusive groups. Governor DeSantis seemed a rising star with solid conservative stances and a bright future.

To date, DeSantis and all other candidates have proved lackluster on the national stage. Though most will probably do great in the future, they seem unprepared for the office they seek. During this time, polls of Republicans and conservatives have shown a clear favorite in Trump. So many of the others running have failed to win support because of how new and untested they are.

We have also all been watching a Democrat Party actively pursing the prosecution & conviction of Trump, his lawyers & ultimately his supporters. To say that this is a worrying sign would be an understatement of epic proportions. This sign is a warning that we are on our last legs as a nation & are about to head into Civil War #2.

During the debate, Mike Pence summed up the position of most in Washington and elites around the nation. He hearkened back to the days of Reagan and a shining city on a hill. Ramaswamys response summed up the sentiments of conservative voters: this isn't the 1980s, it's not morning in America & it's impossible to go back. Stop living in the past & deal with our current reality, which is quite dark & deteriorating constantly!

I think we are all aware of global elites & their agenda. We are fighting a worldwide, left wing, totalitarian cabal that appear to want us turned into serfs and/or eliminated completely. They want a borderless world without national loyalties, an economy designed to only benefit elites, a lack of faith in God and an unelected, appointed government & police state.

Watching criminalized opposition, seeing Soros/Zuckerberg influence, experiencing election fraud and finding out about bizarre happenings like the Hawaii fires, has coalesced to make a strong argument in Trumps favor at this important time! I will always have criticisms of people on our side because I want us to win & anything we are failing at needs to be corrected to ensure that we succeed. The stars are too high to sit around and kiss anybodys butt!

Any criticism that most conservatives have is centered around making sure we don't get involved in petty arguments, that we support whomever we want in primaries, but support all Reublicans in the general to ensure Democrats won't have power, that we stop fighting amongst ourselves & that we make election security a priority.

Trump supporters need to allow some criticism, so that he changes tacts when needed & hones his debating skills. He has to appeal to the broader electorate and win enough of a majority to prevent Democrats efforts to cheat from succeeding. They need to understand that many of us would like to see a rising star like DeSantis or Ramaswamy elevated to more important positions for the future. We have got to have leaders for an era post-Trump & we need Congressional & state Republicans to work with Trump to get things done. That cant happen if you attack any and all who express a concern. In essence, we need to be more productive and stop fighting with each other.

I dont know what the perfect answer is for us, but I think the best answer at this time is to work to get Trump reelected, work to ensure fairness in elections and stop the barrage of communist BS and woke lefty ideology from advancing. I would strongly urge any and all conservatives, even if you don't support him in the primaries, to absolutely support Trump passionately in the general election. We have to turn out in the greatest numbers they've ever seen & get all Republicans elected to as many offices as humanly possible!


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To: Fury; Publius
Either you believe Mike Lindell and the whole bunch or essentially you’re against President Trump

Believe Mike Lindell and the whole bunch about WHAT?

What in my post is untrue? State Legislatures appoint the President and Vice President using an indirect election method called the Electoral College.

People voting in States cannot overpower or overcome this critical role. It's assigned to the States for a reason, and that reason is to exclude the national government from the process of replacing itself.

Votes or who voted for who has nothing to do with it, in the Constitutional sense.

I posted four uncontested facts:

1) The only "election" in the Constitution took place on December 14, 2020.
2) That election has 538 voters, called Electors, who are appointed by State Legislatures (except for the three Congress gave itself in 1960)
3) In that election that took place on December 14, 2020, Biden and Harris got 306 votes and Trump and Pence got 232 votes.
4) No competent authority (no State Legislature) disputed these facts, not one time.

As far as me being "against President Trump", I've supported him right here starting while he was still on the escalator in 2015, in the NH primary twice (2016, 2024), in the general election twice (2016, 2020) and I will vote for him in November unless they kill him first.

You may be confused because I support the utter destruction and burning to the ground of the Republican Party, but my candidate Donald Trump has never been and is not now a real Republican - which is one of the reasons the GOP joined with the Democrats to ruin his term in office and why they remain silent while they pray for his conviction and incarceration.

141 posted on 05/05/2024 5:03:15 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Jim Noble

Sorry. If it wasn’t clear, I’m agreeing with you. The incessant whining about 2020 does -nothing- to secure a victory in 2024

Agreed, the Republican Party has lost its way and I don’t think it can right itself.


142 posted on 05/05/2024 5:36:46 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Jim Noble
The only brand of conservatism that exists is a brand that conserves nothing.

Even if it was a viable ideology, look around, there are not enough people around, living in the country, who even were here to remember what to conserve.

In order to save what is left of the country, if even possible, some group of someone's who know what to do with power will need to make an appearance. Currently, no one on the field meets that definition and it's gonna be tricky with a locked down internet and algorithms. Might need to go back to basements and printing presses.

143 posted on 05/10/2024 7:29:09 AM PDT by riri (What’re y’all talking bout? I just got a new set of Michelins for the house!)
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