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1 posted on 05/18/2024 7:52:58 AM PDT by karpov
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This will create sub par students that won’t compete well against students from other nations who haven’t dropped quality requirements

Americans will become second rate in our own country


2 posted on 05/18/2024 7:59:13 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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“I got all A in doctoring!” sez the Didn’tEarnIt hire as he brings out the hacksaw for your operation.


3 posted on 05/18/2024 8:05:51 AM PDT by dynachrome ("God grant I don't outlive my wits.")
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Long-time public high school teacher here. Like most teachers, I had high standards. (And yes, there are exceptions. But it is most.)

Never once did a principal commend me for holding those high standards. But I sure did get indirect pressure loosen them. And that’s because principals and superintendents with low failure rates in their schools get promotions and bonuses.

Finally the school district decided to institute a policy: No test score can be less than 50%. So if a student puts his name on the paper then goes to sleep, presto! He has just earned 50 points.

I tried to ignore that policy, as did many of my fellow teachers. But the district was too smart for us. Any grade less than 50 entered into the school computer was automatically changed to 50.

This was all pre-Covid.


4 posted on 05/18/2024 8:09:08 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Then companies will hire those with lower GPAs.

There’s a lot of DEI in the company I work for and the difference between DEI and non DEI hires today is out of this world


5 posted on 05/18/2024 8:15:54 AM PDT by MNDude
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I know of two kids right off top of my head lost full ride scholarships first year at school. It benefits the school to bring them in ten drop payment. It also benefits the school to have them succeed so they have to be aware their high school teacher that coddled them or didn’t want to deal with their parents who think life ends at getting that scholarship, inflated their grades

They have to show up and bring it. No partying. No long phone talks with enmeshed love interests. Good food and sleep. Sports. Sleep. And no blaming the instructor. That’s for losers

There’s non of that in a good focused masters program. Those kids have all been weeded out

It starts young. Positive guidance. No blaming. Solid math, language and literature. Without classic lit they don’t know people, pitfalls, character, whom to trust, who are the villains how do they behave not WHY (someone all of tge 7 deadly sins. Tge how they got there is sick and boring)

GPA is meaningless without a solid foundation - mind pathway building) and self knowledge in study habits

Letting middle schoolers fail is not always a bad thing. If they have any value for school they’ll figure out how to avoid failure on their own


6 posted on 05/18/2024 8:17:28 AM PDT by stanne
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College Participation GPAs!!! How ‘bout that! The Straw Man’s brain.


7 posted on 05/18/2024 8:20:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When did WE decide to make America a UN 5-Star Asylum Paradise for Socialist losers?)
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This is why teachers despise standardized testing.


9 posted on 05/18/2024 8:22:27 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Trump’s fault. The buck stopped with him, but he turned it over to the little snake and the scarf-lady.


10 posted on 05/18/2024 8:24:31 AM PDT by nwrep
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"Everybody has won and all must have prizes."

11 posted on 05/18/2024 8:27:13 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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I am very surprised that the tests haven’t been watered down to match the caliber of those taking it ... so it looks like the little darlins are by golly just as smart as they think they are.


14 posted on 05/18/2024 8:39:51 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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“Some see a lowering of standards,”

That is how I see it. Typical of Democrats.


15 posted on 05/18/2024 8:49:47 AM PDT by Parley Baer (.)
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Ah, Lake Liberals-Be-Gone (if only!!), where all the little turds are above average.


16 posted on 05/18/2024 8:51:59 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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I heard under Biden, Grade inflation is up 30 to 40 percent, of course the Biden administration denies it’s that high…..


18 posted on 05/18/2024 9:02:29 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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The fact is, people will not test the same, and those that don’t excel will suffer low self-esteem. This has been deemed unacceptable. Those that cannot keep up will be promoted. They effectively have been denied an education and won’t realize it until they hit the employment wall.

I took a course in electronic communication. It was basically a course to prepare you to take the FCC license exam. I thought I was learning electronics. I graduated and went for a job interview. To my embarrassment, I discovered that I in fact knew nothing about electronics. I tucked my tail and went back to school. I took a proper electronics course and then proceeded to make a good living in electronics repair. It is not a good thing to discover one has been mis-educated. I feel sorry for them.


19 posted on 05/18/2024 9:07:09 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: karpov; sten; Leaning Right; stanne; Lockbox; bk1000; Parley Baer; MNDude; Lizavetta

Something big just happened with AI.

GPT-4o (pronounced four-oh) debuted from Open AI. It’s “stream of consciousness” compared to the old model of AI that converts voice input to text, processes the info to develop a response, then converts the text of the response back to voice.

Since GPT-4o (in a video feed) can skip all these extra steps it can detect nuance, such as confusion, facial expressions, tone, cadence, emotion, and other personal factors. Its responses are near instant — milliseconds since there are fewer steps to formulate a response.

Take a look at the latest video updates on GPT-4o online — AI is finally able to become a very useful tool — and is quickly rising to the level that it can REPLACE teachers. I saw the demo in which a student (the son of Khan Academy’s founder) was walked through a trigonometry problem in real time by GPT-4o. And not by a disembodied voice, but a compassionate, patient, teacher voice.

Open AI says they will make GPT-4o available to the public, for FREE.

I think homeschooling, with help from AI, will help arrest the general American decline in educational standards and educational expense. Not to mention it won’t require kids to be corralled in large groups to learn, without individual attention, and with large segments of wasted time transporting to and from school, waiting between periods, and so on. If any of you have ever been to a homeschooling conference and visited with the myriad vendors to inspect their curricula, you’ll agree that AI can help augment a well-crafted program, with AI functioning in the integrated role ofpersonal tutor.

All this is great but remember the adage “garbage in, garbage out” so we have to be vigilant about AI content, just as we do when we monitor content from school teachers. Remember during the lockdowns when teachers didn’t want parents to monitor Zoom sessions with students?

Intro to GPT-4o from Open AI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQacCB9tDaw


22 posted on 05/18/2024 9:41:26 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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Everything has to be dumbed down to help the non-whites and illegals.


25 posted on 05/18/2024 10:37:05 AM PDT by Diversity Is Our Weakness
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This is their way of stealing education from those of you who are educated.


26 posted on 05/18/2024 11:17:41 AM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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COVID didn’t help and we haven’t recovered from it. We have high school juniors and seniors who never even learned how to be a middle schooler let alone a high schooler.

The capable ones are few and far between, and many of those aren’t inquisitive — they just do the work that’s asked of them and little more.

And then I’ll be asked if there’s any way I can help with their grade.

Once that last day in June rolls around, I’m not looking at my email until Labor Day, so any pleas will fall on deaf ears. They know this, but don’t seem to understand it.


31 posted on 05/18/2024 1:36:29 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either)
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