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To: VadeRetro
There have been 3 offerings of evidence thus far. As the burden of proof falls on me I offer #1-The Red Shift, i.e.,the degeneration of energy measured by a light spectrum. #2-The natural decay of all enery and matter alike. The contrary, i.e., a perpetual motion machine is unatural and nonexistent inside this created universe. #3-The actual measurements of light from around 1600 to 2000 wherein light has decreased its velocity. What I mean when I say the degeneration in the speed of light: that light, over chronological time slows down and that light, over measured space loses energy. Seeing infrared: No, Adam could see. Adam age like a mayfly: You said all atomic processes happen fast then asked if Adam's internal processes happen fast. Last I checked, organs like the stomach, intestines, heart and such were not "atomic" processes. You answered your own question there. What about the nuclear decay of the earth? Well, what about it.
175 posted on 09/14/2001 2:57:27 PM PDT by bryan1276
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To: bryan1276
There have been 3 offerings of evidence thus far . . .

The red shift is not evidence for CDK, period. Your second law arguments have been refuted too many times to take you seriously. That leaves your historical data points.

Setterfield originally tried to use this table to show light used to be faster. But, challenged on his methods, he changed his theory. Now he says the observations occurred after the speed of light had bottomed and began bouncing up and down in a damped oscillation.

That also accounts for some of the early measurements being lower than the modern value. But a better explanation is that the early measurements had large error bars which the modern value lies well within. So the nucleus of the evidence justifying this madness is statistical noise.

I gave you A Thread where I detailed the problems with CDK. Perhaps by not reading same, you have failed to deal with anything I said.

Seeing infrared: No, Adam could see.

That looks a lot like what Helen Fryman wrote. What kind of answer is that supposed to be? If Adam could see, the light isn't very redshifted. (How far down into the infrared can you see? Or did God give Adam LF radio antennas for eyes?) If the light isn't very redshifted, you can't cook off the amount of nuclear material in a short time necessary to create the appearance of age claimed by CDK-ers and not cook Adam. You either cook off all that fuel or you don't. If you do, you have to deal with all the reaction byproducts, not just the ones you want to. The only way to de-energize a photon is to redshift it.

Adam age like a mayfly: You said all atomic processes happen fast then asked if Adam's internal processes happen fast. Last I checked, organs like the stomach, intestines, heart and such were not "atomic" processes.

Last time I checked, chemical reactions were the result of the flight of electrons. In Setterfieldian gibberish, the charge of the electron was the same, but the mass of an electron was absurdly diminished on Day 6 of creation. That should make chemical reactions happen absurdly fast.

Similarly, nerve impulses are waves of depolarization rippling down an axon. The molecules flying through the axon membrane are lighter, but the forces on them are the same as now . . .

What about the nuclear decay of the earth? Well, what about it.

Alpha particles (in large numbers) are bad for you. I've heard the claim that the alpha radiation of the rapidly cooking earth would have lifted Adam off of the ground on Day 6 of a Setterfieldian universe.

177 posted on 09/14/2001 3:26:10 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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