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Must God Apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah?
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com ^ | October 2, 2001 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 10/02/2001 6:20:26 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

Must God Apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah?
By Chuck Baldwin
October 2, 2001

It astonishes the mind to realize how many professing Christians refuse to believe that acceptance of moral perversity leads to divine judgment. Such widespread misunderstanding of Holy Writ can only be attributed to a half century of impotent, shallow pulpits. Unfortunately, the consequences of such willful ignorance can only mean we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of past nations that also ignored the warnings of Scripture.

If the Bible teaches anything, it teaches that God is sovereign in the affairs of men. America's Founding Fathers believed that to a man. Our very form of government is predicated upon this principle. The writings of the Founding Fathers are replete with personal acknowledgments to this principle. For Christians to now repudiate this principle is the height of silliness and stupidity.

Since the destruction of the Canaanite empire, every nation throughout history that has repudiated the moral laws of God has fallen victim to the wrath of God. There have been no exceptions. Even more interesting is the fact that the vast majority of these nations fell at the zenith of their power and influence. The mightiest armies men can assemble are but toy soldiers when they march against God.

It is true that God made a special covenant with only one nation, Israel. However, it is equally true that only one nation, the United States of America, made a special covenant with God. From the earliest days of our nation, our forebears made it crystal clear that this country was founded for "the advancement of the Christian faith" and for "the glory of God." Reread the Mayflower Compact, The Fundamental Orders of 1639, and the First Charter of Virginia. Study again the writings of America's Founders. There is no mistaking it: this country made a covenant with God.

Furthermore, Holy Scripture is also clear that God charges every nation to honor His standard of righteousness. Scripture promises divine blessing to nations that elevate these principles and divine judgment upon those nations ignoring them. This has been accepted Christian dogma for 2,000 years! God has made another covenant with the nations of the world: bless Israel and be blessed; curse Israel and be cursed.

Another principle that God has determined will cause a nation to falter or prosper is the principle of leadership. Leaders without the fear of God will doubtless bring a nation into divine displeasure, while leaders who fear and honor God's laws will surely experience Heaven's favor.

For far too long, too many of these sacred principles have been violated in our country! Are we now shocked that God could be using pagan nations (as He repeatedly did with Old Testament Israel) to judge Christian America? Instead of ridiculing the brave men who attempt to call America back to God, we should be doing what God demands.

That means the White House and the church house need to stop normalizing adultery, homosexuality, and other acts of sexual deviancy. We must begin holding our political leaders to the fundamental principles contained in our Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights. Most of all, our pulpits must become, as DeTocqueville said, "ablaze with righteousness."

Listening to many modern pundits, one would think they expect God to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah; however, God owes no nation an apology. God is righteous in judgment as much as He is in blessing. The only apology owed is the one owed to God from disobedient people. That is called repentance, and it is time America did it.

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1 posted on 10/02/2001 6:20:26 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
Great stuff. Fantastic. Keep on bumpin'!
2 posted on 10/02/2001 6:44:12 AM PDT by gg188
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To: proud2bRC
Chuck Baldwin just doesn't get it. God judges OTHER nations for their wickedness--Russia, Germany, Japan. They got what they deserved, and they should have accepted it as the price of their sins. When they slaughtered innocent people, they were being undemocratic and oppressive, and thus, their actions called down God's wrath. America is different: When we slaughter babies, we are exercising freedom and democracy.

So, you see, it's completely different. And preachers who say otherwise are just as bad as the men who hijacked those planes!

3 posted on 10/02/2001 6:51:56 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: proud2bRC
If He was teaching anything, it's that religious intolerance has
no place among civilized man.

 

4 posted on 10/02/2001 6:55:30 AM PDT by Deep_6
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To: proud2bRC
I assume of course that everyone on those planes or in the target buildings was Gay, had an abortion, is an adulterer, divorced or was not a born again x-tian or a Mother Angelica approved Catholic.
5 posted on 10/02/2001 6:57:44 AM PDT by nofriendofbills
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To: proud2bRC
Must God Apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah?

He was framed.

6 posted on 10/02/2001 7:00:44 AM PDT by OWK
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To: proud2bRC
The author is assuming a good deal about Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible never clearly states exactly what the sins of Sodom & Gomorrah (and three other cities - we keep forgetting it was five cities destroyed at once) were. Since there are other Biblical references to the widows and daughters of Sodom, presumably the inhabitants were hetero and so forth. The Talmud suggests that these were cities living on banditry. But the Bible never clearly says that these cities were hotbeds of homosexuality (that use of the term sodomy started in the middle ages).
7 posted on 10/02/2001 7:08:01 AM PDT by DonQ
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To: proud2bRC
God has judged this nation. And despite all the attempts to rationalize how good we are and how God judged Sodom and Gommorah for their inhospitality to travelers or banditry, for God's sake, we will see firsthand how He brings judgement upon an immoral and Godless nation.
9 posted on 10/02/2001 7:17:59 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: DonQ
I think we can gather somewhat of Sodom's troubles from Genesis 19. The Sodomite's demand outside Lot's house, that they be given the two angels to rape. That's enough for me.
10 posted on 10/02/2001 7:18:49 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: Deep_6
Oh that all peoples were as 'religiously intolerant' as the founding fathers of the U.S. of A.
11 posted on 10/02/2001 7:19:44 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: nofriendofbills
Re:
"...I assume of course that everyone on those planes or in the
target buildings was Gay, had an abortion, is an adulterer,
divorced or was not a born again x-tian or a Mother Angelica
approved Catholic...."

HAR de HAR HAR!

Right on, bro..

 

Thanks

12 posted on 10/02/2001 7:20:43 AM PDT by Deep_6
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To: Arthur McGowan
They got what they deserved, and they should have accepted it as the price of their sins. I thought that's what hell was for or is their some kind of double jeopardy

Please explain also whose wrath or judgement an 8 year old suffering with leukemia or a person dying of brain cancer has incurred.

Do you people ever bother to use logic before uttering this bilge
13 posted on 10/02/2001 7:21:28 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: proud2bRC
bump
14 posted on 10/02/2001 7:21:43 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Deep_6
If He was teaching anything, it's that religious intolerance has no place among civilized man.

Sounds like you've made your god in your own image. How does he/she/it/they reveal himself/herself/itself/themselves? I'll stick with the God who has revealed Himself through the Bible.

15 posted on 10/02/2001 7:21:58 AM PDT by Kyrie
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To: pubmom
The Sodomite's demand outside Lot's house, that they be given the two angels to rape. That's enough for me.

Yeah and LOT being the LOVING father that he was offered the mob his daughters instead
16 posted on 10/02/2001 7:23:12 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: DonQ
It doesn't?? Thats news to me. Jude 1:7 "Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forward as an example, suffering the vengence of eternal fire."
17 posted on 10/02/2001 7:23:37 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: pubmom
So Lot offered to throw his two daughters to the crowd instead.

And that's enough for ME.

18 posted on 10/02/2001 7:26:27 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Don Myers
God has judged this nation. And despite all the attempts to rationalize how good we are and how God judged Sodom and Gommorah for their inhospitality to travelers or banditry, for God's sake, we will see firsthand how He brings judgement upon an immoral and Godless nation.

So it was God who smashed planes into the WTC?

19 posted on 10/02/2001 7:27:15 AM PDT by OWK
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To: nofriendofbills
I assume of course that everyone on those planes or in the target buildings was Gay, had an abortion, is an adulterer, divorced or was not a born again x-tian or a Mother Angelica approved Catholic.

When God brought judgment on Israel, even one of His own prophets went into exile. The Chaldeans did not spare the children or babies. God often does not do things the way we (you) think He should.

20 posted on 10/02/2001 7:28:01 AM PDT by Kyrie
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