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America Is Falling Into An Illuminati Trap{a bank Mohammad Hussein Al-Amoudi, lawyer Vernon Jordan
http://www.redmoonrising.com/trap.htm ^ | Peter Goodgame

Posted on 10/08/2001 8:11:24 AM PDT by freedomnews

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To: DugwayDuke
I am well aware that it is a futile exercise to "argue" with the tin foils...Just the other day I told Elvis (he has an apartment in my basement...he didn't really die....just wanted some peace and quite), that after I get the winning lotto numbers from the hidden clues in the funny papers, I am going to take my photo of the mother ship UFO to the newspapers and stop wasting time with these fools that just won't accept the truth at Free Republic......(seriously, I do not argue with them....just have a little fun with them on occassion).
161 posted on 10/11/2001 5:29:45 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Patriot76
"I think 99% of what we read and hear on news and entertainment is CIA and defense industry propoganda."

Agree 200%!!!!

162 posted on 10/11/2001 5:38:00 AM PDT by Independent Lady
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To: Poohbah
And, to look at the other side of the teacher/student relationship, we have these Mainstream Media reports about what some of the flight instructors had to say about the flying skills of these kamikaze pilots, who performed such precision feats of piloting on 9/11:

Flight 77: "The Plane Was Flown With Extraordinary Skill"

Once again: Operation 911 demanded that the attacks be tightly coordinated. Four jets took off within 15 minutes of each other at Boston, Dulles, and Newark airports, and roughly two hours later, it was over. If we are to believe the story we are being told, the masterminds needed, at an absolute minimum, pilots who could actually fly the planes and who could arrive at the right place at the right time.

American Airlines Flight 77, Boeing 757, took off from Dulles Airport in Northern virginia at 8:10 a.m. and crashed into the Pentagon at 9:40 a.m. The Washington Post's September 12 says this: "Aviation sources said that the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm, possibly one of the hijackers. Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious."

According to the article, the air traffic controllers "had time to warn the White House that the jet was aimed directly at the president's mansion and was traveling at a gut-wrenching speed—full throttle.

"But just as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees from the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controller's screens, the sources said," (pg. 11). (Washington Post, September 12, 2001, "On Flight 77: 'Our Plane Is Being Hijacked., pgs. 1 & 11. )

Meet Ace Suicide Pilot Hani Hanjour

Let's look at what we know about the alleged suicide pilot of American Airlines Flight 77, Hani Hanjour. According to press reports, Hanjour had used Bowie's Maryland Freeway Airport three times since mid-August as he attempted to get permission to use one of the airport's planes. This from The Prince George's [Maryland] Journal September 18, 2001:

"Marcel Bernard, the chief flight instructor at the airport, said the man named Hani Hanjour went into the air in a Cessna 172 with instructors from the airport three times beginning the second week of August and had hoped to rent a plane from the airport.

"According to published reports, law enforcement sources say Hanjour, in his mid-twenties, is suspected of crashing the American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon. . . .

"Hanjour had his pilot's license, said Bernard, but needed what is called a 'check-out' done by the airport to gauge a pilot's skills before he or she is able to rent a plane at Freeway Airport which runs parallel to Route 50.

"Instructors at the school told Bernard that after three times in the air, they still felt he was unable to fly solo and that Hanjour seemed disappointed.

"Published reports said Hanjour obtained his pilot's license in April of 1999, but it expired six months later because he did not complete a required medical exam. He also was trained for a few months at a private school in Scottsdale, Ariz., in 1996, but did not finish the course because instructors felt he was not capable.

"Hanjour had 600 hours listed in his log book, Bernard said, and instructors were surprised he was not able to fly better with the amount of experience. Pete Goulatta, a special agent and spokesman for the FBI, said it is an on-going criminal investigation and he could not comment." (pg. 1.)

If you were the mastermind who planned this breathtaking terrorist attack, would you trust a man who took 600 hours of flying time and still could not do the job? Who was paying for Hanjour's lessons, and why?

Yet this is the man the FBI would have us believe flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon "with extraordinary skill." He could not even fly a Cessna 172!

By shifting the plane's position so radically, Flight 77 managed to hit the side of the Pentagon directly opposite the side on which the offices of the Secretary of Defense and Joint Chief of Staff were located.

Let's Meet The Other Aces

According to The Washington Post (September 19, 2001, "Hijack Suspects Tried Many Flight Schools"), Mohammed Atta, alleged hijacker of Flight 11, and Marwanal-Al-Shehhi, alleged hijacker of Flight 175, both of which crashed into the World Trade Center, attended hundreds of hours of lessons at Huffman Aviation, a flight school in Venice, Florida. They also took lessons at Jones Aviation Flying Service Inc., which operates from the Sarasota Bradenton International Airport. According to the Post, neither experience "worked out."

"A flight instructor at Jones who asked not be identified said Atta and Al Shehhi arrived in September or October" and asked to be given flight training. Atta, the instructor said, was particularly difficult. 'He would not look at your face,' the instructor said. 'When you talked to him, he could not look you in the eye. His attention span was very short."

The instructor said neither man was able to pass a Stage I rating test to track and intercept. After offering some harsh words, the instructor said, the two moved on . . . . "We didn't kick them out, but they didn't live up to our standards." (page A 15.)

Or try the Washington Post: Alleged hijackers Nawaq Alhazmi (Flight 77), Khaid Al-Midhar (Flight 77) and Hani Hanjour (Flight 77) all spent time in San Diego. "Two of the men, Alhazmi and Al-Midhar, also briefly attended a local fight school, but they were dropped because of their limited English and incompetence at the controls . . . .

"Last spring, two of the men visited Montgomery Field, a community airport . . . and sought flying lessons. They spoke to instructors at Sorbi's Flying Club, which allowed them to take only two lessons before advising them to quit.

"'Their English was horrible, and their mechanical skills were even worse,' said an instructor, who asked not to be named. 'It was like they had hardly even ever driven a car . . . ..'

"'They seemed like nice guys,' the instructor said, 'but in the plane, they were dumb and dumber.'" ("San Diegans See Area as Likely Target," Washington Post, September 24, 2001, pg. A7.)

163 posted on 10/11/2001 7:05:48 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: roughrider; BlueLancer
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164 posted on 01/13/2003 10:20:58 AM PST by Red Jones
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To: Red Jones
Thanks for thinking of me ... but I've had this one bookmarked since it was originally posted.
8')
165 posted on 01/13/2003 10:31:09 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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