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BS or Refrigeration Breakthrough?
Kelix web site and Popular Science (1/2002) ^

Posted on 12/16/2001 2:16:12 PM PST by John Jamieson

In Oklahoma summer without air conditioning would be miserable for most. But that cool, comfortable air also blows in higher utility and maintenance bills that may make a home-owner hot even in the cool.

John Kidwell believes that his invention -- the Kelix -- is the cold blowing, energy-efficient answer to those problems. He has developed an air conditioning unit that works without a compressor. By doing so he has basically eliminated 90 percent of the working parts in an air conditioning unit and potentially cut cooling costs in half, he says. While his prototype looks a little rough, it does exactly what it was built to do. It proves that refrigeration can be achieved without the use of a compressor.

Now how do you remove 90 percent of a machine and still achieve the desired function? Kidwell has built the Kelix to use a centrifugal heat transfer engine. It has heating and cooling modes of reversible operation, in which heat can be effectively transferred within diverse user environments for cooling, heating and dehumidification applications. The design consists of a dumbbell shaped coil with one side acting as an evaporator and the other as a condenser. The coil spins to create the centrifugal force for refrigerant metering as it passes from the condenser section, through a throttling device and into the evaporator section. The coil is driven by a small electric motor. Usually, this movement of refrigerant is created by a compressor.

Heat is removed from the refrigerant as it spins through the condenser section. The fluid refrigerant enters the evaporator section coils and is then recycled back through a return shaft and the refrigeration process is completed. To understand the physics behind his invention, Kidwell has an analogy. A bucket of water held by the handle and swung upside down will not spill. However, if a hose is stuck in the bucket and ran over the shoulder of the person swinging the bucket, the water will be pumped out of the bucket through the hose. Kidwell said that same concept is used to pump refrigerant through the metering device.

Kidwell has been working on the idea behind the Kelix since 1972, but it is still in the early stages of development. He has put together 25 investors in the project and secured a method patent and an applications patent that protect his idea. Kidwell and his investors feel it will have an industry changing impact.

Lane Lawless was introduced to the Kelix in 1999 and now is the second biggest shareholder in the venture behind Kidwell. He has been trying to help Kidwell get his idea off the drawing board, out of his garage laboratory and into production. "The first time John explained his idea and I saw it actually work, a light went off for me," Lawless said. "I went home and thought about it, and I couldn't sleep that night. I knew he had something."

Lawless describes Kidwell as the potential equivalent to the Wright brothers, only in the refrigeration field. "Over the past century many improvements have been made on airframes and power plants," Lawless said. "The most important was when the Wright brothers proved that man was capable of powered flight. That is what John has done with cooling."

The Wright brothers first flight was not to the moon, and in the same sense the Kelix is not ready to cool a mansion. Lawless said the product needs research and development to produce what it is capable of doing. "Our goal is to continue our development and then find the fastest channel to market that we can," Lawless said. "The only way we can fail is if we stopped development. The idea is already proven."

Now if the idea is so great, why has it not been implemented already? Kidwell said it has been a personal project and that he has kept the idea relatively secret for years. "No one has ever had this idea before," Kidwell said. "No one knows about it and that's why it has not taken off."

Kidwell literally wrote the book on centrifugal heat transfer. In order to explain the system in the patent he had to create all the language involved with process and arrange it in a textbook format. Developing the terminology and producing the book took him five years. Finding investors and money for development and patent fees may not be the only thing holding the company back. Kidwell's idea challenges the existing application used by the multi-[ 4] billion dollar heating and air industry.

Patent attorney Thomas Perkowski has been guiding the Kelix through the rigorous process of obtaining a patent. "It's really a pioneering invention," Perkowski said. "But inventions are generally the enemy of ideas in production. It might be received hostilely by industry leaders." John Boyce, president of Airco Service, a heating and air company in Tulsa, said a heating and air unit without a compressor is an interesting idea that would require considerable proof before the industry made a switch.

"The compressor is pretty much the heart and soul of the air conditioner," Boyce said. Older units experience a lot of compressor problems, said Leigh Anne Bell of ABC Air Conditioning Co. "When the compressor goes out it would just be better to replace the whole unit," Bell said. She said the price to replace a compressor in a five-ton unit would be around $1,000. A brand new unit would cost around $1,400.

Lawless said the Kelix would be proportionately smaller in size and weight and considerably less in price. He also said it would be easier to fix, because it has far fewer parts. "If you could fix a compressor system now, you could fix a Kelix in your sleep," Lawless said. He said the average homeowner could do most of the repair work with an instruction manual and that the only working part that could eventually fail would be the electric motor. "We could theoretically offer a lifetime warranty," Kidwell said. Kidwell's conviction in his invention stems from a lifetime of related work. He maintained jet engines in the Air Force and from there he went to Oklahoma State University's school for refrigeration. Those two backgrounds started the thinking process for the Kelix.

"I just had a simple idea about overcoming the use of a compressor," Kidwell said. "It started with the bucket test and it was trial and error from there." "Kidwell is a very hands-on guy," Perkowski said. "He's not a Ph.D., but he has an intuitive understanding for the otherwise mysterious process of refrigeration."


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Looks to me like conventional refrigerants require too high a pressure for such a simple machine to work. See web site for picture, etc. Anyone have a scientific as opposed to emotional thought on the subject?
1 posted on 12/16/2001 2:16:12 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
Cool!!
3 posted on 12/16/2001 2:20:39 PM PST by shezza
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To: KirbyJ
Wouldn't be easier to just go over to freelectricity.com and get one of their sundance generators and use the old ac?
4 posted on 12/16/2001 2:23:49 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
i am going to look at their website but it appears to be a centrifugal chiller of which there are many in operation. I haven't had a chance to look at it thoroughly yet though
5 posted on 12/16/2001 2:24:12 PM PST by Nov3
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To: John Jamieson
Can the Freelectricity generator he described as a perpetual motion machine?

Since the generator is powered from a constant energy source in the form of gravity and permanent magnets it should run nonstop for a very long period of time. The estimated life expectancy of the unit is over a hundred years.

6 posted on 12/16/2001 2:31:07 PM PST by Petronski
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To: KirbyJ
newer `scroll' compressors.

.....new?.....

7 posted on 12/16/2001 2:31:13 PM PST by cyberaxe
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To: Nov3
Whoops! Link has typo. SB www.kelix.com/news.html (not htlm)
8 posted on 12/16/2001 2:32:05 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: Petronski
Best described as a scam for getting $5 from a million people. Be more like a perpetual money machine.
9 posted on 12/16/2001 2:33:45 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: KirbyJ
But then again remember that the current compressors are reciprocating devices. The old saying that much of the power developed by a reciprocating engine goes toward its own self-destruction. Every lenghty deiscussion on marine diesel engines (after the second six-pack) brings this old saw out from one of the participants at some point.
10 posted on 12/16/2001 2:35:45 PM PST by capt. norm
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To: John Jamieson
Here's a link to a diagram of it: HERE.

Time will tell if it is practical, at least it doesn't overturn any physics laws.

11 posted on 12/16/2001 2:36:09 PM PST by mrsmith
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Anybody know how to calculate how fast this thing has to turn to get the gas to a couple hundred psi so it will condense?
12 posted on 12/16/2001 2:42:21 PM PST by John Jamieson
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It sounds to me like it will not replace air conditioners but supplement them by providing a means to operate cheaply and provide a small (and I do mean small) bit of cooling when needed. That might be convenient but it will not make much of an impact.
13 posted on 12/16/2001 2:49:28 PM PST by balrog666
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If it works small and cheap why wouldn't it work big and cheap?
14 posted on 12/16/2001 2:55:16 PM PST by John Jamieson
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If it works small and cheap why wouldn't it work big and cheap?

Big is never cheap.
16 posted on 12/16/2001 3:01:01 PM PST by balrog666
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To: John Jamieson
Fascinating concept.

Without giving it much thought, I believe it will certainly work. The real question is what are the ton's / HP. I see nothing to indicate that this device would make any signifcant improvements in that area. Although the elimination of a conventional compressor is a majors plus.


17 posted on 12/16/2001 3:08:52 PM PST by Fzob
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To: capt. norm
Some, percentage of existing compressors are still reciprocal. But the good old recip, which is still best in some apps, has been in general phase-out since the late 70's, Cap. Nary a new one left on the automotive scene, for example.

Ya got your vane types, your scroll types, and your screw types (helical).

18 posted on 12/16/2001 3:09:21 PM PST by Francohio
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And there is ammonia-absorption-cycle refrigeration that is over 100 years old, and does not use a compressor at all. Jade Mountain sells an ammonia-absorption-cycle refrigerator that runs on a kerosene pilot light.

/john

19 posted on 12/16/2001 3:20:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: John Jamieson
"It's really a pioneering invention," Perkowski said. "But inventions are generally the enemy of ideas in production. It might be received hostilely by industry leaders."

This is the sentence I knew I'd find. The old "there is a conspiracy against us excuse." It has scam written all over it.

20 posted on 12/16/2001 3:23:13 PM PST by Moonman62
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