U.S. expecting more prisoners in Afghanistan/BIN LADEN'S POSITION

Miami Herald Online ^ | Saturday, December 29, 2001

[JohnHuang2]

Quote of the Day by CW_Conservative

[Peach]

"Three months ago he was in control of a country. Now he's in control of a cave". Taunting OBL may bring him out of that cave and is a long honored tradition of psych war with the enemy. Keep up the good work.

[JohnHuang2]

Bingo.

[ASA Vet]

Many of the prisoners will be sent to the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

I certainly hope that once we are finished with the prisoners, they are released into Cuba.

[ASA Vet]

Taunting OBL may bring him out of that cave

1. Release of the 1st confession tape to the public on Dec. 13th, 2001 tainted any possible jury pool in the U.S.

2. The tape would not have been released if it were needed as admissible evidence for a court trial.

3. No court case is expected.

QED

OBL was DEAD Dec 13th, and remains so.

[Trust but Verify]

This is an interesting take you have. Care to elaborate on how and when and how can we be so sure? ANd last, why aren't they shouting it from the rooftops?

[M. Thatcher]

The tape would not have been released if it were needed as admissible evidence for a court trial.

Flaw in your argument. U.S. has TONS and SCADS of evidence you are not even remotely aware of. The tape was never "needed as admissible evidence" and therefore its release is not in the slightest bit useful for determining OBL's current status or U.S. knowledge of same.

[ASA Vet]

You, I, and all of the folks with no "need to know" will never see the proof.
OBL will be deprived of martyr status, and just fade into obscurity.

This of course is just my opinion, and if he should surface I'll have to eat crow.
(It wouldn't be the first time.)

[blam]

"You, I, and all of the folks with no "need to know" will never see the proof. OBL will be deprived of martyr status, and just fade into obscurity.

This of course is just my opinion, and if he should surface I'll have to eat crow. (It wouldn't be the first time.)"

I agree and I'll eat some crow with you if necessary.

[ASA Vet]

U.S. has TONS and SCADS of evidence

Very true, but much of that was collected by our Intel assets an can not be used in a public trial.
The tape is open source, so therefor isn't going to cause the disclosure of our collection methods and abilities.

you are not even remotely aware of

I suspect there are few FReepers who know more than I do about how little we know. ;>)

[ASA Vet]

I'll eat some crow with you if necessary

As a former member of the "Old Crow & White Lightning" society, let me assure you Crow doesn't taste to bad.
When eaten after large amounts of white Lightning it can be very tasty.

[M. Thatcher]

can not be used in a public trial.

What makes you assume there would be a public trial?

[ASA Vet]

Of course it's an "assumption" on my part. As I've said several times It's my "opinion."

A closed trail or closed military trial would not satisfy the average U.S. citizen,
who would be sure of a government whitewash, railroad job, or coverup,
depending on which side of their head they wear their tin foil hat.
Citizens of other countries would be even less accepting of a closed trial.

As I indicated in a prior post, If I'm wrong and OBL surfaces, I'll eat crow.
If we never ever see his ugly raghead again it won't prove I was correct.

[ASA Vet]

Bump, He still hasn't surfaced. What happened to Bookmarks?

[ASA Vet]

Good Morning folks.
It's been a month since we had this conversation.
OBL is still dead.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

``This is a guy who three months ago was in control of a country,'' the president said. ``Now he's in control of a cave.''

Great line! Thanks for responding to my post and referencing this thread!

[ASA Vet]

It's been 3 months now since our conversation.
The "I've seen OBL" stories are beginning to be like Elvis sightings.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Yes, exactly. Latest one says OBL sent a credible e-mail?! How the heck do they know it's "credible"?!

[ASA Vet]

Here's another Elvis Bin Laden sighting from 4/15/02.

click here

[ASA Vet]

The "Elvis Bin Laden" saga continues, see this thread from 4/30/02. click here