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To: Magician
I've flip-flopped on this issue in the past, but now I feel the need for the legalization of Cannibis. Provided the substance is used responsibly, who is the government to tell me what I can and cannot do to my body?

However, there is one major difference between an illegal drug such as Marijuana and a legal drug such as alcohol. That one difference is intoxication. I can enjoy alcohol recreationally in moderate amounts and can control my level of intoxication. I can decide just to savor the taste of a good beer, or get obliterated on a fifth of whisky. With Marijuana it's a different story. The only result of use is intoxication. While this isn't necessarily a reason NOT to legalize, it certainly nullifies the comparison of Cannibis to alcohol.

27 posted on 02/20/2002 6:52:59 AM PST by reagent
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To: reagent
I can enjoy alcohol recreationally in moderate amounts and can control my level of intoxication. I can decide just to savor the taste of a good beer, or get obliterated on a fifth of whisky.

That depends on how much you weigh and what your tolerance is to alcohol. I can drink a beer or two, but I still feel a slight buzz, equivalent to the buzz I get by taking a hit or two of pot. I know some potheads who can smoke a whole gram and barely feel anything....

36 posted on 02/20/2002 6:56:06 AM PST by Nate505
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To: reagent
you wrote: However, there is one major difference between an illegal drug such as Marijuana and a legal drug such as alcohol. That one difference is intoxication. I can enjoy alcohol recreationally in moderate amounts and can control my level of intoxication. I can decide just to savor the taste of a good beer, or get obliterated on a fifth of whisky. With Marijuana it's a different story. The only result of use is intoxication. While this isn't necessarily a reason NOT to legalize, it certainly nullifies the comparison of Cannibis to alcohol.

I've seen this reasoning before on this topic, and I have to say it is specious. Marijuana is no different than alcohol in your example above. The major reason you cite above is simply inaccurate. The moment you put alcohol into your system, it begins to have an effect. How much you put in determines how much of an effect. The same is true of marijuana.

Your major reason doesn't exist. Marijuana intoxication is not binary, nor is alcohol's. There are levels of intoxication for each, and the intoxication begins at the moment of ingestion.

There is NO justification for one being legal and the other not.

72 posted on 02/20/2002 7:18:01 AM PST by dmz
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To: reagent
That one difference is intoxication. I can enjoy alcohol recreationally in moderate amounts and can control my level of intoxication.

Would this be true if you had to purchase your alcohol in a gallon jug from a guy selling it out of his car ?

Legalization would have the added benefit of allowing the consumer to know how much thc is in the mj.

107 posted on 02/20/2002 7:51:44 AM PST by Eddeche
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To: reagent
Have you ever smoked cigars? The taste can be pleasureable and varied. This sort of reminds me of a friend who said he didn't really like cocaine, he just liked the way it smelled ;-)
118 posted on 02/20/2002 8:00:11 AM PST by M. Peach
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To: reagent
There is one major difference between an illegal drug such as Marijuana and a legal drug such as alcohol. That one difference is intoxication. I can enjoy alcohol recreationally in moderate amounts and can control my level of intoxication. I can decide just to savor the taste of a good beer, or get obliterated on a fifth of whisky. With Marijuana it's a different story. The only result of use is intoxication

This is just plain wrong for a variety of reasons. First, one certainly can decide to have just one puff of marijuana and get a nice light "buzz" (beer drinking terminology), or to get completely intoxicated with the stuff. Just like booze, dosage counts.

Second, it is easier to control dosage with smoke than it is with liquid. Smoke goes straight in. One can judge how much effect smoke has almost instantaneously. This is not so with liquor. You can drink a belly full and not feel the full efects for an hour. If you are an "experienced" drinker, you moderate accordingly. If not, you might end up dead from alcohol poisoning.

Third, marijuana "intoxication" typically relaxes and intellectually stimulates the user while the effect lasts. Alcohol intoxication revs them up and decreases their ability to reason. Alcohol users decide to go driving. Or fighting. Or just beating up their spouses and children.

Fourth, Alcohol is addictive where marijuana is not.

Finally, unlike alcohol, marijuana intoxication produces no sickness or hangover once the effect begins to wear off.

175 posted on 02/20/2002 9:05:27 AM PST by Melinator
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