Jerry, I will not even deal with number two because I think it demeans the discussion. It can be used as a hidden insinuation against those who are christian brothers/sisters. Would YOU ever use it that way? I'm sure not. Therefore, it isn't becoming to even address it.
What do YOU think the bible teaches on the subject?
"What do YOU think the bible teaches on the subject?" I think that the Bible supports the contentions of my post number 8. Why would you consider this to be demeaning?
Also, you have yet to answer my question. Why are you avoiding it?