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To: The Raven
The celebrated work had not undergone peer review and when scientists around the globe failed to reproduce their results, the affair turned into one giant embarrassment for the Utah professors and science in general.

Horse manure.

"Science in general" came out smelling like a rose, because the debacle demonstrated that the scientific method, and scientists worldwide, "police their own" just fine. A paper based on faulty method was published, and the subsequent reproduction of the experiment (or more accurately, the lack thereof) and peer review tested it and properly found it wanting.

What actually earned the "giant embarrassment" was the *media*, which jumped to conclusions, shouted from the rooftops, and made a mountain out of this molehill before it had been properly examined, and certain glory-hound scientists who properly received their comeuppance for their preference for the spotlight over careful methodology.

7 posted on 03/07/2002 2:20:18 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: Dan Day
because the debacle demonstrated that the scientific method, and scientists worldwide, "police their own" just fine

When it comes down to something that actually would MATTER in the everyday life of the average citizen, they might. The embarrassment at the prospect of looking like clowns to the public that worships them would motivate them to come clean. Unfortunately (flame bait warning) that doesn't seem to extend to the junk brought to bear for the Holy Dogma of Evolution... why, even if this Dogma were true, would we STILL have a curious silence from the scientific world about science textbooks that present long-discredited "evidences" for evolution. These scientists sure aren't silent when someone manages to get, say, intelligent design theory introduced into classrooms.

8 posted on 03/07/2002 2:32:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Dan Day
The Media and other liberals hate it when the process works well,
and they will spin the story to push their agenda.

Remember Three Mile Island?
The Engineered safeguards worked properly, shut down the plant, without a leak into the environment.
The media and libs used this success as "proof" that nuclear power isn't safe.

9 posted on 03/07/2002 2:55:08 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: Dan Day
Science in general has done poorly because the coverup of cold fusion was not exposed;
and some of those who sell their books about it continue that coverup up as they pose as "scientists".
12 posted on 03/07/2002 3:28:49 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Dan Day
The Utah scientists were afraid that one of the people they had asked to peer review their work was about to publish it as his discovery. Acting on this belief, they rushed to make sure they received credit for their own work.

There is a fascinating book on the subject, I believe it is titled 'Bad Science'.

15 posted on 03/07/2002 4:03:43 AM PST by Andrew Wiggin
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