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To: madfly
If all the spotted owls died and one farm or ranch was saved it would be worth it.Or if 1 job was saved for that matter

The truth is the owls will adapt to whatever happens

4 posted on 03/18/2002 6:52:54 AM PST by Pete53
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To: Pete53
The truth is the owls will adapt to whatever happens

Exactly- one of the biofrauds we have here is the Red Cockaded Woodpecker.... according to eco-mythology, the poor little bird can only live in old-growth forests, so we aren't supposed to cut trees.

In fact, the birds are common here inside the city limits- I see the dern things all the time in my yard- and seem to be quite happy in any tree.

5 posted on 03/18/2002 7:02:44 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Pete53
The truth is the owls will adapt to whatever happens

Is there science to back up this claim?

According to one of the standard ecology textbooks, Charles Kreb's "Ecology", a survey by Bart & Forsman (1992) revealed that the owls were not found in forests which were only 50 - 80 years old and occurred only where old-growth stands were present. Landscapes containing less than 20% old-growth forest rarely supported the species. They also found that much of the protected wilderness of the Pacific Northwest didn't support owls either as these forests were less productive because they occur at higher elevations than much of the old-growth outside of the parks. LaHaye & Gutierrez (1999) found that spotted owls in northern California nested in trees older than 300 years and more than 1.2m in diameter over 80% of the time.

Here's the references for those who want to examine the data:

Krebs C.J.(2001) Ecology: the experimental analysis of distribution and adundance. 5th Ed.

Bart & Forsman (1992) dependence of northern spotted owls on old-growth forest in the western USA. Biological Conservation 62: 95 - 100

LaHaye & Gutierrez (1999)Nest sites and nesting habitat of the northern spotted owl in northern California. Condor: 101: 324 - 330

10 posted on 03/18/2002 8:26:17 AM PST by Youngblood
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