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Will Westerfield Face Death Penalty? (Van Dam trial update)
Union Trib ^ | March 18, 2002 | Alex Roth

Posted on 03/18/2002 6:58:54 AM PST by FresnoDA

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To: Cu Roi
No parental lifestyle goes uninvestigated in the abduction/murder of a child...This is a very good point, and it's the first time I have yet seen it raised.

I've said it more than once...but it wasn't recognized by some of posters here.

41 posted on 03/18/2002 10:26:32 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
That was not a quote from me...
42 posted on 03/18/2002 10:27:55 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: crystalk
Better call the sdpd and tell them that!
43 posted on 03/18/2002 10:28:54 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
We now have the admission that there is no Westerfield DNA in the VD home. No evidence he was ever there.

We further have evidence that the RV was up at Hi-Valley in storage until some 9 am Saturday morning, and thus any evidence it contained was old, and had nothing to do with Danielle's disappearance, and furthermore it seems other neighborhood children had fingerprints and/or DNA in that vehicle as well. They had been allowed to play in it.

I am to the point now, where I will say that:

UNLESS DAVID WESTERFIELD can be placed IN DANIELLE'S ROOM THAT NIGHT, or at DEHESA BODY SITE, the prosecution really has nothing on him. The kiddie-porn vanishes into mist on examination.

44 posted on 03/18/2002 10:29:29 AM PST by crystalk
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To: Valpal1

Lots of very interesting bits are ignored and lost in sensitization of the "swing" angle.

Likewise, lots of accountability and scrutiny is avoided by accepting the VD swinger lifestyle as simply another "choice".

Quite frankly, IT IS NOT an acceptable lifestyle.  And by the time the VD case is over, many believe that the large majority of followers of this case will find that at the least, the promiscuousness availed the kidnap and murder of a child.  And at best, these beloved "swingers or their friends" in fact are culpable.  (Based upon a running theory)

 


45 posted on 03/18/2002 10:30:36 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Valpal1
ah yes! That was brought up by the defense to the lead detective who was unaware of it at that point..

There are a LOT of angles we're not seeing yet..me thinks

46 posted on 03/18/2002 10:30:42 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
Watkins was able to resurrect some files that had been deleted from the Zip disks, he said.

Can't wait to see what those were.. Thanks for the update...I see there IS a new number on how many pics..

47 posted on 03/18/2002 10:36:31 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: crystalk
We now have the admission that there is no Westerfield DNA in the VD home. No evidence he was ever there.

Where do we have that admission?

We further have evidence that the RV was up at Hi-Valley in storage until some 9 am Saturday morning, and thus any evidence it contained was old, and had nothing to do with Danielle's disappearance, and furthermore it seems other neighborhood children had fingerprints and/or DNA in that vehicle as well. They had been allowed to play in it.

Either I missed this testimony or you a making stuff up!

I am to the point now, where I will say that:

UNLESS DAVID WESTERFIELD can be placed IN DANIELLE'S ROOM THAT NIGHT, or at DEHESA BODY SITE, the prosecution really has nothing on him. The kiddie-porn vanishes into mist on examination.

Yup, that's why the judge allowed it entered into evidence and bound DW over for trial.

48 posted on 03/18/2002 10:39:31 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: crystalk
We now have the admission that there is no Westerfield DNA in the VD home. No evidence he was ever there.

We further have evidence that the RV was up at Hi-Valley in storage until some 9 am Saturday morning,

The news reports quoted the pd as saying that the rv was stored at westerfields place of business.. you've found otherwise?

Where is the admission on the dna in the vd home?

49 posted on 03/18/2002 10:39:34 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Valpal1
No parental lifestyle goes uninvestigated in the abduction/murder of a child.

While this may be true, the van Dams were clearly indentified as not being suspects almost immediately.

We didn't hear the usual "everyone is a suspect at the moment" line. I found that very odd in this case and untypical. If it had not been announced so early, I may have thought differently.

Personally, I think naming DW as their ONLY suspect very early on was a big mistake even if LE was very confident.

When you couple that with the fact that a primary election for SD DA was just around the corner, it makes me very uncomfortable.

I honestly don't think that BVD and DVD were examined closely enough. I also believe that is why LE gets so defensive if the "lifestyle" issue arises. They know there are a lot of yucky characters that show up in this drama and probably just don't want to "go there" now.

Not good, IMO !!!!!!

50 posted on 03/18/2002 10:41:29 AM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
It is unlikely that a annimal drug the body. (ie:about 60lbs) It is more likely that a person of small stature did it.

Westerfield appears to me to be the chump in this event. I can't help feeling as I do. I have been chumped by others myself. Nothing! would surprise me. People are inherently evil as a rule. At least in my book.

51 posted on 03/18/2002 10:41:52 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Nothing! would surprise me. People are inherently evil as a rule. At least in my book.

Aint that the truth! I completely agree. It's possible she was dragged by animals in the woods, but I was referring to the drag marks that were by the sidewalk on the side of the vd house..

52 posted on 03/18/2002 10:47:18 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
emmaculate room

LOL, is this a room for aspiring virgin mary's?

The van dam' are self absorbed, inattentive parents. No parents deserve to have a child abducted. But the continual excuse making for the parents actions are a form of denial, and no amount of research will change that fact.

Have you considerd researching uncaring, inattentive or swinging lifestyles? Or do you only reasearch to support your defense of the parents ?

53 posted on 03/18/2002 10:47:18 AM PST by quimby
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To: wirestripper
Posts of Fresno DA published yesterday pm and eve, show that the RV was up in storage till some 9 am Saturday 2/2, and that no DW DNA was found in the VD home.

This was being gradually let out by LE anyway.

If I am wrong, then the error is in the sources themselves as presented.

54 posted on 03/18/2002 10:48:15 AM PST by crystalk
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To: FresnoDA
Quite frankly, IT IS NOT an acceptable lifestyle. And by the time the VD case is over, many believe that the large majority of followers of this case will find that at the least, the promiscuousness availed the kidnap and murder of a child. And at best, these beloved "swingers or their friends" in fact are culpable. (Based upon a running theory)

Unacceptable is not the same as illegal. Moral culpability is not the same as legal culpability. Right now, DW has been charged with and will be tried for the legal culpability of Danielle's death.

It must hurt you FDA, that you can only stone/flog/cane these degenerate parents on the internet instead of the town square.

55 posted on 03/18/2002 10:50:09 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: quimby
Spelling? LOL HeY, wHO is PeRfECt..tell jim rob to get a grammar and spell checker. :) I've never defended their lifestyle...EVER! But since you have asked, I've studied abuse and neglect..but mostly of the elderly.
56 posted on 03/18/2002 10:51:14 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Valpal1
Do you work or have you ever worked in the legal field? Legal and Moral are the same don't ya know!
57 posted on 03/18/2002 10:52:17 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I did not give much attention to the marks outside the home. Except, that is if you believe that Brenda dumped the body. Any man could have easily carried her.
58 posted on 03/18/2002 10:53:23 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: crystalk
Posts of Fresno DA published yesterday pm and eve, show that the RV was up in storage till some 9 am Saturday 2/2, and that no DW DNA was found in the VD home.

Thanks! I'll go check it out ..that's really an ODD thing for him to do cuz the norm for him was to store it at his place of business...THAT'S WEIRD!

59 posted on 03/18/2002 10:54:06 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: crystalk
I wonder if he placed the body in storage for awhile??? There is a serial killer on trial here..and he stored his victims in barrals..both kansas and missouri.
60 posted on 03/18/2002 10:55:35 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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