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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
This is a GAY problem - not a celibacy issue. DUH. Of course, the liberal media will never approach it from that (true) angle because that would conflict with their agenda to promote homosexuality as an "alternative lifestyle."

How many of you (heterosexual) guys out there, if finding yourself without a wife or sex partner for a while, would start looking to young or teenage boys to get your fix? When will people start THINKING for themselves, rather than letting the media tell you what to think - about the Catholic Church or anything else for that matter??? This is simply not logical.

As a TRUE Catholic who knows my faith, theologically and otherwise, listening to the moronic, ignorant, and ludicrous opinions and commentaries by the media on what the Church should do about this is enough to make me puke. These idiots don't know what the h*ll they're talking about, and are using this issue to simply promote and spread their religious bigotry.

And another thing - in most of these cases it's not even pedophilia. The majority of the cases involve teenage boys. Still horrible, but the word is being thrown around and overused to create more anger and rage. It's a fact that the incidence of this behavior among priests is no more than in the general population. Priests are human too and are capable of committing human sin just as much as the layperson. How priests get to the point of committing such crimes is another topic of its own.

This is the real root of the problem (article below), and YES IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND ROOTED OUT OF THE CHURCH! As a Catholic who loves my faith I'm disgusted with this behavior, but it in NO WAY invalidates my faith or the Church itself (there will always be tares alongside the wheat). Priest: Gays Threaten Church

5 posted on 03/18/2002 11:30:30 PM PST by oremus
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To: oremus
2nd attempt to post article link: Priest: Gays Threaten Church
6 posted on 03/18/2002 11:35:13 PM PST by oremus
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To: oremus
Yep. It's idiotic to point to "celibacy." Celibacy doesn't cause homosexuality or pedophilia. And being able to marry a woman is going to do nothing for the gay perverts. What has happened is that the homosexual liberation movement has made them more aggressive. They are acting out fantasies with greater abandon and, apparently, without fear of any consequences.

The problem has a lot to do with the liberal policies which came in after Vatican II which made becoming a priest a lot easier. When they actually had to study Latin, Greek, theology, and philosophy, wear clerical garb always, and actually do priestly work most of the time, it was a less attractive crash pad and cash cow for recreational homosexuals. This is the result of the infiltration of the Church by the aggressive gay subculture. Any bishop who has tolerated this or swept it under the rug should resign. I am sicked that we, as Catholic conservatives, wrote to Rome and complained and complained about all of this nonsense over twenty years ago and not only was practically nothing done about it but the gay-liberal agenda continued to be promoted at Catholic seminaries and universities in this country. Did it really take this long for the authorities to wake up? Why is there a "gay" club at the "Catholic" Georgetown University in Washington? That ought to be shut down tomorrow. Why was The Vagina Monologues monologues allowed to be shown at Holy Cross and Notre Dame? Why is a creep like Richard McBrien allowed to continue to pretend to be a "Catholic" theologian without discipline from his bishop?Why does Fordham University have an anti-Catholic professor of sociology on its faculty who writes anti-Catholic books? Why was a charlatan like Cardinal Bernardin so lionized and adored by secular liberals who hate the Church? Why has Rome tolerated the heresy, sacrilege, iconoclasm, and buffoonery of a Bishop Weakland? This queer stuff didn't happen in a vacuum. There is an entire
anti-Catholic subculture within the American Church. They should all be kicked out. Every sick liberal bastard.

7 posted on 03/18/2002 11:48:30 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: oremus
As a Catholic who loves my faith I'm disgusted with this behavior, but it in NO WAY invalidates my faith or the Church itself

The magesterium is pure but much of the human structure of the church has come under occupation by a hostile fource of heretics and homosexuals. Many "conservative" bishops, priests, and laymen are serving as collaborators with the enemy by their docility.

We genuine Catholics must recognize that a state of WAR now exists. We must use every weapon available including prayer, investestigation, and even street action to reclaim our Catholic institutions. If we don't, anti-Catholics are justified in blaming us for the crimes of those we allow to rule in our name.

9 posted on 03/19/2002 12:01:12 AM PST by Longshanks
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To: oremus
I remember someone asking our Holy Father about celebacy and he said, "I couldn't change it even if I wanted to."
50 posted on 03/19/2002 10:51:47 AM PST by Slyfox
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