AS Gabe Leonard drove home through Beverly Hills after midnight one evening, lights flashed as he went through an intersection. He knew instantly he'd been photographed by a traffic camera. Posted on 03/19/2002 1:05:48 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
AS Gabe Leonard drove home through Beverly Hills after midnight one evening, lights flashed as he went through an intersection. He knew instantly he'd been photographed by a traffic camera.
Mr. Leonard tried to recall where his wheels were when the yellow light turned red. He thought he'd beaten the light. But 12 days later he received a summons – including photos of his car, incriminatingly in mid-intersection.
The freelance artist fought the $271 fine in court – and, surprisingly, won. "I decided to fight on principle," says Leonard. "[A red-light camera] presents itself as some sort of infallible process."
As cameras that detect people who run red lights proliferate across the country, some motorists are calling them a Big Brother and a big bother.
While supporters argue that the devices make roads safer, critics say too many violations involve drivers who enter an intersection just tenths-of-a-second after the light has changed to red. Opponents, such as the ACLU, also complain the cameras are one more step down the path to a "surveillance society." And others worry that cities will become dependent on ticket revenue from the devices, which they have dubbed the "scamera."
"The shoe has been on the wrong foot all along; this is not a driver problem this is a traffic engineering issue," says National Motorist Association President, Jim Baxter.
Although red-light cameras have been adopted by 15 states, a number of signs point to the beginnings of a blacklash.
• Alaska, Nebraska, New Jersey, Wisconsin, and Utah have banned photo-enforcement systems.
• Maryland's state senate is mulling bills that would curtail or eliminate the cameras.
• In San Diego, such cameras have been turned off for more than a year following allegations of a conflict-of-interest involving the for-profit vendor who administers the system. Hundreds of tickets have been voided.
House majority leader Dick Armey has also called the cameras a hidden tax. Also of concern to Mr. Armey: The presumption of innocence is lost even if a driver ran a red-light unintentionally by misjudging a yellow light.
"Our technology should adapt to our Constitution and laws, not the other way around," he said in a statement last year.
Red-light-camera systems generally link traffic signals, sensors buried in the pavement at the front edge of an intersection, a camera, and a computer. When a vehicle passes over the sensors after the light has changed to red, the camera usually snaps two photos of the vehicle in the intersection, including identifying license plate information.
"A huge problem in San Diego, and it's echoed throughout the country, is the way yellow lights are timed," says local attorney Arthur Tait. The city reportedly grossed $30 million in revenue during the 18 months that 19 traffic light cameras were in operation.
Proponents of camera systems say that traffic engineers laugh when they hear accusations of shorter yellow-light times. "They're the only people who are allowed to set the yellow-light time in most places, not the police or the vendor running the camera program, and they traditionally follow national engineering standards. Their concern is safety," says Leslie Blakey, coordinator of the National Campaign to Stop Red Light Running.
Camera supporters also dismiss the "Big Brother" argument, saying that taking photos of someone violating the law in a public street is not having their privacy invaded. The results, they say, more than validate the cameras' contribution to road safety.
In Oxnard, Calif., red-light running dropped 42 percent citywide after a program began there. In Washington, D.C., the police reported a decrease of 24,000 red-light-running violations monthly in the two years after 39 cameras were installed in 1999.
"The whole basis of our program is to change the behavior of the red-light-running driver," says Sergeant Richard Carlson, program manager for the Sacramento County red-light camera program. Last year the Sheriff's department videotaped one approach to what had been designated one of the 10 most dangerous intersections in the country. The camera caught 62 violations in a 24-hour period. Since red-light cameras were installed at the intersection last spring, the average number of violations has dropped to 13.
Sacramento County is planning on expanding their program by rotating 10 cameras between 30 camera housings. Since drivers will not know which housing contains a camera on any given day, the hope is that 10 cameras will do the deterrent work of 30. Many opponents of the cameras acknowledge studies that show 800-900 deaths are caused each year by red-light runners, but they say those are typically exceptional situations like police chases or heart attacks at the wheel that red-light cameras will never stop.
"The way to correct red-light running is to go back and look at timing, maintenance, and other intersection design issues and correct those problems rather than just spending $50,000 a pop to put up cameras and issue citations to people," says Mr. Baxter.
Go for it. They will probably arrest you (the charge will be interesting - interference with a "LEO"?) but it will be an interesting and important case. To hell with Big Brother.
JUST intellectual curiosity, you understand.....
Cool. I almost wish we had some around here so I could do that too! Of course its better not to have them so as not to have anything to protest about:)
Lucky for me I live where even if these things take off nation wide, we will be the last to get them. Hehe, sometimes it pays to be behind the times:)
Well here it is. I learned that when the light turns yellow you should get ready to stop and not try to beat the light. I have seeen many go through a red light that was already red before they even approached the intersection
No doubt the same people who say we'll be safer when we guns are banned.
Huh? I don't think cameras are the solution, but blamung red-light running on timing, etc. is silly.
There will always be traffic dorks who think they deserve to go through the light just because they want to.
When we lived in Austin, I learned rapidly that red light running was the NORM and actually nearly got rear-ended several times because I slowed down when the guy behind me wanted me to zoom on through so he could, too. Dang it! I could see the yellow light was stale and so could the guy behind me. There were times when I had no choice but to go ahead just to prevent an accident!
I was also nearly t-boned a few times before I learned to wait even longer than normal on a green before pulling out (much to the disgust of the driver behind me). You know, in defensive driving they teach you to count "one thousand one, one thousand two" before pulling into the intersection on green and even THAT wasn't long enough. There was frequently some idiot who would come up to an intersection with a red light and blow right through even with other cars crossing.
So what if sitting at a red takes a few minutes out of your day? I invariably would catch up with the guy who ran the red light in front of me at the NEXT intersection! He didn't make any progress that would justify putting his life and the lives of those around him at risk. I'm including women in that generic "he". So why run the light? I admit some of the lights were interminably long when you were running late, but we had a lot of people using those roads. What I felt was needed was a turnpike that was a straight shot through the heaviest areas, like we had in Oklahoma City.
I warned my parents when they came to see me just how dangerous it was to drive in Austin...by the time they got to my house, they were wild-eyed with their hair standing on end...having narrowly avoided above-mentioned accidents themselves and only because they believed and heeded my warnings.
The only thing that decreased the red-light running from time to time was having a patrol car (or two) clearly visible to swiftly ticket those who dared to run in front of them. Unfortunately, while they were occupied with that violator, the other drivers would take advantage and zoom through, knowing they were not going to be caught themselves.
So, what causes "these problems"? Durned if I know...selfish drivers? Too high speed limit approaching these intersections? Low dollar penalties? Whatever it was, after a few weeks in Austin, I was inspired to get a more responsive vehicle with better pick-up-and-go for those times when I had to get out of some idiot's reckless way. That new vehicle saved my life countless times and I'm not an "old lady driver" by any means.
I've noticed in my new hometown we don't have the problem to the same degree...must be something in Austin's water.
I'd be interested to know what really makes Austin drivers behave differently than other city drivers...
Who gets the ticket if SOMEONE else is driving your vehicle. Like your kid, wife, husband or a thief? Do the points go against YOUR license or against the person actually doing the driving? I'm surprised no one has mentioned this factor!
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