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To: tim politicus
If something is not logical, it is not true.

Where did you get there was something illogical?

You ignored what I actually said and went on with some rant. Why do you stop ranting and tell us what you think is mistaken about our understanding?

137 posted on 03/22/2002 9:13:58 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
"...tell us what is mistaken about our understanding..."

'Our' copious use of the 'royal "we"' exactly illustrates what is essentially 'wrong' here:

1#) The intoxicating saftey of "herd thinking".

2#) Making a royal priesthood out of those holding the merely (and always temporarily) dominant view in ***any*** field, in order to satisfy that primal inner longing for certitude.

3#) Self certitude in itself. That is religion. It has no place in science.

But to address your corporate concern, here is just one example of the mind-numbing, er ah, make that mind-blowing illogic which we/they/them no longer find a barrier to 'progress':

'We' (unfortunately not the royal one) are told that space itself is rapidly expanding [what a wonderfully unmeasureable phenomena!] in such a manner as to cause the matter in it to actually move faster than the light which it emits.

Seriously, were do I start? Please do reflect on this though: The fact that c is no longer universally understood as constant should by itself tell us that the scientific view is, even in its most assumed or enshrined form, changing. And not always (though usually) for the better.

[e.g., A number of ancient Greek scientists were aware of a heli-centric astronomy, but the view adopted and held for over 1500 years was the ptolemaic.]

But to return to my rant, even if one believed the idea that space ***itself*** expands in this manner, one would have to question why the 'waves' which travel through the assumed [but unproven] etheric (another old idea alternatively worshiped and abandoned) medium would not correspondingly expand, 'expanding' the speed of light along with them. I could go on. Honestly though, why should I have all the fun? Why don't you see if ***you*** could find anything to question in all this.

A final note: Folks, the religious ***only*** respond to rhetoric [call it ranting if you must]. Once someone has ***decided*** not to reason ***for themselves***, no amount of pristene logic will prevail. No amount.

But passion will sometimes get through. No light without fire.
140 posted on 03/25/2002 12:37:55 AM PST by tim politicus
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