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Rosies War
Family.org ^ | Pete Winn

Posted on 03/20/2002 7:13:21 AM PST by Khepera

Rosie's War
By Pete Winn, CitizenLink associate editor

The homosexual adoption debate will arrive front-and-center this week when talk show host and newly acknowledged lesbian Rosie O'Donnell will appear on ABC's "Primetime Thursday" to discuss her battle to legalize adoption by homosexuals.

O'Donnell, who has adopted three children, is working with homosexual rights organizations and the American Civil Liberties Union to overturn a Florida law barring adoption of children into homosexual households.

"A national conversation is about to begin — not just about Rosie, but also about gay and lesbian families," said Joan Garry, executive director of Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD).

Indeed, the Gay and Lesbian Community Center (GLCC) of South Florida reports that CNN will broadcast from GLCC's "gay adoption law forum" to be held Thursday night — the same night the "Primetime" special will air.

But while conservatives and family analysts welcome the "conversation" about homosexual adoption, they also believe it is time for the truth to be told — a truth that goes far beyond Rosie O'Donnell.

Snowball Effect
Gay parenting has been the subject of much press in recent weeks. In February, the Alabama Supreme Court ruled 9-0 to deny a lesbian woman custody of her three children. Chief Justice Roy Moore raised the hackles of the homosexual movement when he wrote that homosexuality was an "inherent evil, and if a person openly engages in such a practice, that fact alone would render him or her an unfit parent."

Also in February, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) issued a policy statement supporting legal and legislative efforts to promote homosexual adoption. The academy claimed it had based its position on a review of scientific literature, which led it to conclude that such adoptions are "in the best interests of children." The announcement sparked debate in the media and among policy wonks across the country.

Now, with the appearance of a popular celebrity in prime time, the issue promises to snowball and propel O'Donnell to something of a poster child in the homosexual adoption debate.

Traditional-family advocates warn of the dangers inherent in popularizing something like homosexual adoption.

"We know that Rosie is a nice, decent individual," said Glenn Stanton, senior research analyst at Focus on the Family. "We also know that she loves her kids. But what an incredible leap to say that just because Rosie is nice and loves her kids that we should completely overhaul our public policy on this point."

Rosie, Meet Jakii
If anyone ought to symbolize the impact of the gay adoption debate, it should be Jakii Edwards, not Rosie O'Donnell.

Placed in the foster care system as a newborn, then later yanked out by an openly lesbian mother she did not know, Edwards' story of abuse and gender confusion casts doubt upon the assertion that growing up in a homosexual home is harmless.

"My mother was out of the closet before there was a closet," Edwards said. "Our life was pretty tumultuous and not very stable."

She described the deeply disturbing experience of being exposed to her mother's sexual behavior.

"She would put my brother and I in the same bed with her and her lover, and she would get in the bed and they would make love right there in the bed with my brother and I in there."

Not surprisingly, Edwards harbored a lot of anger toward her mother as a result of this and other abuse.

"The pain that I dealt with was tremendous, and affected me for a long time," she said. "I hated lesbians for a long time, because I felt that all lesbians represented my mother to me."

Edwards doesn't cast any aspersions on the motives of homosexuals who want to adopt children.

"A lot of children are just left out in the cold with no place to go, and they end up falling through the holes in the foster care system," Edwards said. "While some may want 'faux families,' I think some homosexuals just want to help."

But Edwards does believe homosexual activists are simply wrong about adoption.

"While their intentions are good, it does hurt the children to come up in gay homes. It causes a lot of turmoil for a child that has never been looked at before."

She acknowledged that just because a child is raised in a homosexual household does not mean he or she will become homosexual.

"That's true, they may not (become homosexual). I didn't turn out to be a lesbian," she said. "But all of the pain, all of the suffering that I had to go through to find out who I was, to deal with the fact that I didn't have to be a lesbian, took a lot of years of counseling and a lot of years of forgiveness and self-examination." Edwards added most of the people she has talked to that have come through the experience of being raised by homosexual parents have major anger issues.

"Even if the parent loved them, and even if they loved the parent, there are still big problems," she said.

Heterosexual homes do, of course, have "issues."

"But when a child lives in an environment where mom is kissing mom and daddy is kissing daddy, it leaves the child with voyeurism issues, with gender-identity issues — we question whether we have to be gay like mommy is gay or like daddy is gay."

Consider the Children
Edwards wonders if anyone is really going to listen to the children in this debate — and the problems raised by homosexual households — or if America is simply going to be bowled over by a TV celebrity pushing a radical agenda that is ultimately bad for kids.

Dr. Bill Maier, a child and family psychologist, agrees that if we, as a society, are going to make policy recommendations about homosexual adoption, we need to think of what is in the best interests of children.

"What is in the best interests of a child is a married mother and father," Maier said.

A great deal of research, Maier said, has been done in the last 30 years showing that children need both a mother and a father to have a healthy sexual identity and self-image.

"There are hundreds of research studies that support the idea that kids do better on just about every measure when they have two married parents — a father and a mother," Maier said. "Kids do better physically, mentally, academically, they experience less poverty, they commit fewer crimes."

Citing work by Rutgers University sociologist David Popenoe, Maier said researchers have also shown that mothers and fathers bring different strengths to raising kids — role-modeling characteristics that children don't typically receive growing up in a same-sex household.

"Mothers tend to stress emotional security, personal safety and comfort with their children," Maier said. "Fathers tend to stress competition, challenge, risk-taking, initiative and independence with their kids. Moms and dads also discipline differently. Mothers provide flexibility and sympathy, while fathers tend to provide predictability and consistency."

He concluded: "By nature, same-sex couples cannot provide what we know children need."

While homosexual households are a definite problem, the issue of homosexual parenting itself is more dicey.

"Actual research on homosexual parenting is inconclusive," Maier said.

First of all, since homosexual parenting is a relatively recent phenomenon, its long-term effects on children are unknown.

Maier added it is also impossible to make definitive recommendations because there are numerous methodological problems inherent in the existing research on same-sex parenting. Studies that do exist have extremely small sample sizes, an absence of control groups, a lack random-sampling, a lack of anonymity of research subjects, and self-presentation bias — meaning that test subjects tend to want to give researchers what they want to hear.

"That's why it so unfortunate that the American Academy of Pediatrics has made a policy recommendation on same-sex adoption, because it is not based on sound science," Maier said.

He pointed out that even the way the AAP made its decision is beginning to backfire on its leadership.

"The AAP committee did not poll the general membership, they did not poll the rank-and-file pediatricians. In fact, they did not even inform them they were going to make these recommendations. And at this point, there are reports that a huge number of pediatricians in America are extremely incensed about the recommendations. We also have reports that many pediatricians have pulled out of this organization, or have threatened to pull out."

Legally speaking
Legally, the situation is up in the air, according to Stanton. Many states have informal bans on homosexual adoption, and three states explicitly bar homosexuals from adopting or serving as foster parents. Florida's law specifically bars gays from adopting, but allows homosexuals to be foster parents. The two other states, Mississippi and Utah, partially bar same-sex couples from adopting.

Courts in 10 states have ruled against same-sex parents who wish to adopt, while courts in 20 states have granted adoptions.


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Next it will be single parent homosexual adoption.
Then lower age of consent to reduce the number of pedophiles
What comes after that?

1 posted on 03/20/2002 7:13:21 AM PST by Khepera
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To: *SASU; JMJ333; Tourist Guy; EODGUY; proud2bRC; abandon; Khepera; Dakmar; RichInOC; RebelDawg...
Bump
2 posted on 03/20/2002 7:14:00 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
E-mail Gov. Bush to tell him to hold the line at: fl_governor@myflorida.com
3 posted on 03/20/2002 7:17:59 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Khepera
What comes after that?

The pervs will demand the right to rent children for a couple hours.

4 posted on 03/20/2002 7:24:14 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: Khepera
Whom seek ye? Had you listened real closely before you were Saved, you would have heard Jesus saying to you, "Whom seek ye?" It is a question He has been asking mankind since the fall of man 6316 years ago. How unfortunate that so few will ever say, "You Lord!" As we read today's Scripture John 18, look at those Jesus is asking that question. Amongst them was the traitor Judas Iscariot, the Roman band, the personal guard of the high priest, men who served and were enslaved to satan, but even them, the Lord gave a chance, for He asked them "Whom seek ye?"

He didn't ask them once, He asked them twice, He gave them two chances to get it right, they choose death. They choose to serve the god of adultery, homosexuality, sodomy, rape, murder, torture, slavery, drug and alcohol abuse, lies, cheating, taxation, and all other forms of lewdness, and evil. They choose to serve satan. Just as rosie has chosen to serve satan.

5 posted on 03/20/2002 7:26:41 AM PST by Alas
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To: Alas
Wonderful post, Alas you are right.
6 posted on 03/20/2002 7:30:59 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
I have been saying for years that a great part of the homosexual agenda was to adopt children. They and the feminists whackjobs have tried to convince America that there are no differences between men and women. That there is nothing special a man and a woman offer children as parents. Excuse me, but having someone you call your uncle serving as some kind of role model does not cut it. He is not dad, someone every child deserves to have. Most of societal ills can be traced to the breakup of family. Moms and dads with values who pass them on with love to their children do not usually provide society's lowlifes.
7 posted on 03/20/2002 7:37:10 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: Khepera
A national conversation is about to begin...

A euphimism for a throwing screaming temper-tantrum at anyone who doesn't believe their way is the right way.
8 posted on 03/20/2002 7:39:21 AM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch;doug from upland
A national conversation is about to begin...
A euphimism for a throwing screaming temper-tantrum at anyone who doesn't believe their way is the right way.

Well there should be! And you will make a nice target for this campaign. I endorse a campaign to put perverts and their supporters in prison.

9 posted on 03/20/2002 7:45:20 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
Well, let's talk, speak louder than them. America civil and decent, a culture of life is still alive and we must speak out. Not another fold hands and let someone else represent us, not like when prayer was taken out of school. Lesbians and homosexuals are indeed corrupt and want to invade - no way no to them from here on. Just as fornicators will not inherit the Kingdom of YHWH, they must not steal our nation's greatest treasure: our children.
10 posted on 03/20/2002 7:47:25 AM PST by Hila
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To: Khepera
Thank you.
11 posted on 03/20/2002 7:56:57 AM PST by Alas
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To: Khepera
Let's put it this way. What if it were YOUR child going to homosexuals?
Say you're an unwed mother who can't care for the infant for some reason, but you haven't the heart to have it torn alive from your womb.
Would you want "Rosies" to raise it, or a nice foster home with a mom and dad until a loving family is found.
I would chose not to sentance it to a life of homosexuality and sin, when there's still hope for love and family for the child.
Life in a loving foster home is better than life in a sewer any day.
12 posted on 03/20/2002 8:06:46 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Khepera
The homosexual adoption debate will arrive front-and-center this week when talk show host and newly acknowledged lesbian Rosie O'Donnell will appear on ABC's "Primetime Thursday" to discuss her battle to legalize adoption by homosexuals.

It stands to reason that Rosie's a lesbian. What man in his right mind would want to have sex with that b*tch.

13 posted on 03/20/2002 8:10:40 AM PST by scooter2
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To: anniegetyourgun
Like Gandalf in LOTR...YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!!!! (nevermind he's gay in real life. I haven't a problem with that, he was wonderful, but I do not want children corrupted by this issue)
14 posted on 03/20/2002 8:32:33 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: concerned about politics
I agree 110%
15 posted on 03/20/2002 9:15:33 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera;owk;*SASU; GrandMoM;JohnHuang2;Brad's Gramma;lentulusgracchus;Jimbaugh;chiefqc;lasator...
America's own version of a "Jihad" (Holy War) is on and the fighting is fierce but underground. The homosexuals are using our children as soldiers because they are cowards. This is another brand of terrorism that we need to stomp on quickly.

HOMOSEXUALITY is an abomination to humanity and even the homosexuals know that it is a vile and corrupt lifestyle, but misery loves company!!!

We can stand and fight or we can surrender, I will fight!

16 posted on 03/21/2002 3:59:22 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: wwjdn
Focus on the Family
17 posted on 03/21/2002 4:01:00 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: Khepera
Bump
18 posted on 03/21/2002 5:58:29 AM PST by EdReform
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