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To: heyheyhey
Mm. Do you suppose it could have anything to do with the fact that this church claims to be The Only One and True Real-Live Church of Jesus Christ On Earth, that it claims to speak with the voice of God independently of Scripture, that it demands such devotion of its adherents that when it says white is black they are forced to compel their minds to accept the absurd, and that it pretends that it is One Happy Seamless Garment, while other so-called Christians are just hopelessly-divided little Johnny-Come-Latelies?

Could it have anything to do with that, do you think?

Dan
What Is Biblical Christianity?

8 posted on 03/20/2002 9:56:53 AM PST by BibChr
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To: BibChr
Does it feel good to have hatred in your heart like this? I have never heard in my Catholic church such hatred of Protestants, Jews or Muslims. This is all in your mind and said with a perspective of an outsider.
11 posted on 03/20/2002 10:01:42 AM PST by RamsNo1
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To: BibChr
Could it have anything to do with that, do you think?

Nope. Don't project your rationale onto the media, they have their own.

14 posted on 03/20/2002 10:05:33 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: BibChr
Mm. Do you suppose it could have anything to do with the fact that this church claims to be The Only One and True Real-Live Church of Jesus Christ On Earth, that it claims to speak with the voice of God independently of Scripture, that it demands such devotion of its adherents that when it says white is black they are forced to compel their minds to accept the absurd, and that it pretends that it is One Happy Seamless Garment, while other so-called Christians are just hopelessly-divided little Johnny-Come-Latelies? Could it have anything to do with that, do you think?

I think this is only relevant to the members of whatever Christian denominations spend an inordinate amount of time teaching their members arguments to rund down other faiths. That doesn't include many people in the press, I'll bet.

The Catholics think they are right, just as you think you are right. As a non-Catholic, I don't think that's a reason to hate either one of you.

18 posted on 03/20/2002 10:23:12 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: BibChr
Could it have anything to do with that, do you think?

Many Christian denominations suffer moral crisis these days. Homosexuals and feminazis were let to run churches their preferred ways. The Catholic Church stood far ahead of the rest as a moral authority until very recently. Remember presidential visit to Vatican and the discussion on human cloning and stem cell research?

I hope all this will bring about much needed reforms in the Church.

29 posted on 03/20/2002 10:41:47 AM PST by heyheyhey
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To: BibChr
that it demands such devotion of its adherents that when it says white is black they are forced to compel their minds to accept the absurd,

Dan, your hatred of the Catholic Church is bigoted and hateful.

A Jekyll-side of your otherwise pleasant personna.

35 posted on 03/20/2002 11:02:29 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: BibChr
Nice rant.

Could it have anything to do with that, do you think?

Not very Christian of you there, Dan.

36 posted on 03/20/2002 11:03:57 AM PST by Cable225
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To: BibChr
Mm. Do you suppose it could have anything to do with the fact that this church claims to be The Only One and True Real-Live Church of Jesus Christ On Earth, that it claims to speak with the voice of God independently of Scripture, that it demands such devotion of its adherents that when it says white is black they are forced to compel their minds to accept the absurd, and that it pretends that it is One Happy Seamless Garment, while other so-called Christians are just hopelessly-divided little Johnny-Come-Latelies?

Are you talking about the Roman Catholic Church or the LDS Church?

Shalom.

54 posted on 03/20/2002 11:27:06 AM PST by ArGee
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To: BibChr
From the article: ...the Church... alleged incidents of pedophilia, the Church remains the Church. ...no matter... the moral authority of the Church will endure.

I dunno...

Jesus said, "by their fruits you shall KNOW them."

He also said "my sheep hear my voice and they follow me, and another will they NOT follow."

"beware of wolves in sheep's clothing" also comes to mind.

The author of this article is pathetic.

These are no longer baseless allegations. They are fact. The pedophile leadership in the "Church" is going to jail.

If the shepherds are pedophiles, and they are the one and only true voice speaking for God, all the while covering up or actively practicing the most hideous forms of sexual abuse... What does it say about Jesus? If the shepherds are following HIM and they are practicing pedophilia, HOW can that reflect them being followers or leaders for Christ, unless the Church believes that Christ was twisted?

I think we see the fruit of organized religion manifest in so many perversions and distortions, that NONE of them can be trusted. JESUS... can be trusted. The rest are going to have to produce INDIVIDUAL fruit that demonstrates they love God, instead of the "wolf in sheep's clothing" act we currently see.

A tree is known by its fruit. If pedophilia is the fruit, the TREE is a pedophilia tree. That goes for Catholic, Protestant, Jew or Islam.

Wisdom is justified by her children, or by what she produces. To date I am increasingly disturbed by the increasingly evil fruit we have flowing in organized Christendom. The catholics have their twisted priests. We have our swaggarts, bakers, and skirt chasers on evangelical TV.

Moral Authority, that this author bows down to in the final statement smacks of idolatry.
EVERY BODY KNOWS Moral Authority flows from MORAL BEHAVIOR.
There is NO OTHER WAY to demonstrate it, earn it or keep it.
Moral Authority does NOT flow from an organization.
It comes from lving a Godly lifestyle. And God, is NOT a pervert, a pedophile or a serial adulteror, drug addict or chronic alchoholic.

When leaders behave, moral authority is a given, and no article is needed to "prop up" the faithful. The Sheep have an ear for their shepherd, and I have it on good authority, that they will not follow after hirelings.

72 posted on 03/20/2002 1:09:30 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: BibChr
Do you suppose it could have anything to do with the fact that this church claims to be ...

Nope. These aren't Protestant fundamentalists we're talking about, they're secular humanist hedonists. Their problem is that the Church preaches that abortion is murder and sex belongs within marriage.

Since you agree with us both of those things, I'm left wondering why you go out of your way to take the side of the Culture of Death against your brothers and sisters in Christ. Whom do you really serve?

75 posted on 03/20/2002 1:19:36 PM PST by Campion
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To: BibChr
that it demands such devotion of its adherents that when it says white is black they are forced to compel their minds to accept the absurd

You're quite adept at absurd.

77 posted on 03/20/2002 1:26:23 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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