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1 posted on 03/21/2002 7:12:21 AM PST by SJackson
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To: bang_list
The company is in ongoing discussions about moving to Arizona, which Saltz said, "makes a lot of sense from a labor-cost standpoint."

A lot of irony here. I remember S&Ws employees being pleased about the buyout, in fact I think one even posted about giving the company another chance for the sake of the employees. Guess they lose their jobs anyway.

Does anyone know the status to their government agreement?

2 posted on 03/21/2002 7:14:42 AM PST by SJackson
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"The Sept. 11 terrorist attack did create a surge in sales for October, but that was not what has sustained them, Saltz said." (Phoenix Business Journal)

9/11 cannot save S&W's butt - as the panic buyers it produced are almost all one-gun-one-time buyers who will not produce continuing business for the gun industry.

Think Ford could survive if the car industry had been an industry of one-car-one-time buyers, very few of whom would ever "get into cars" - and Ford was facing a continuing boycott from its mainstream repeat buyers?

Add to that problem the fact that those panic buys now have the gun market near saturated - if it wasn't already. Future 9/11s aren't likely to find potential first-time-only-time buyers to push into gun ownership for gunmakers.

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5 posted on 03/21/2002 7:41:00 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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It was a name the powerful gun lobby had perceived as tarnished by the company's willingness to capitulate to anti-gun sentiment in the face of a slew of lawsuits.
That raises the question: what, clearly and briefly, is the status tof the coerced agreement that caused S&W's downfall in the first place?
Is it null and void?
Does it affect the new company in any way?

The company is in ongoing discussions about moving to Arizona, which Saltz said, "makes a lot of sense from a labor-cost standpoint."

Makes a lot of sense from the PC-hostile environment too, which in the long run is more important to the company's survival.
If it capitulates to the gun grabbers again, Smith and Wesson is toast.

6 posted on 03/21/2002 7:47:36 AM PST by Publius6961
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"...some of the people have worked in the plant for generations, and it might be difficult to replicate their level of expertise."

I knew those Connecticut Yankees were clever folks, but I never suspected they did it by inheriting their "expertise."
How DO they do that?

7 posted on 03/21/2002 7:52:56 AM PST by Redbob
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I'm still not buying it! They're still the same traitorous bastards that they were before!!
8 posted on 03/21/2002 7:53:33 AM PST by Destructor
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""It seems that the gun industry has had considerable success in the past year, and a number of lawsuits have been dismissed," said Dan Larson, a partner with Phoenix law firm Gammage & Burnham PLC, which is involved with Smith & Wesson's securities and transactional work."

Yeah, the Gun Industry has had considerable success- in spite of the Smith & Wesson deal with Clinton!

10 posted on 03/21/2002 8:02:20 AM PST by Destructor
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"Less than a year after Saf-T-Hammer acquired firearms giant Smith & Wesson, ...

When Saf-T-Hammer purchased the company in May 2001 from the British conglomerate Tomkins PLC for $15 million,..."

How can $15 million be called a giant? That's half of Rush Limbaugh's annual contract.

11 posted on 03/21/2002 8:05:51 AM PST by Kermit
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Same agreement still in full force and present management has made absolutely no effort to get out of it. Vin Supryowicz had an interesting article about it in his last newsletter. Bob Scott went to great lengths to attempt to weasel out of answering Vins direct questions and admitted that everything is still in effect. Bob then went on to insinuate that anyone who doesnt buy from S&W must be spending their money on tinfoil.

Ill try to bring it in and post it tomorrow...

13 posted on 03/21/2002 8:34:35 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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I bought this S & W 686+ just months before they kissed Klintons ass. I contemplated gettig rid of it, but it's too nice a gun!

19 posted on 03/21/2002 12:11:23 PM PST by Doomonyou
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Let Sarah Brady buy Smith & Wesson not me.
21 posted on 03/21/2002 2:00:52 PM PST by mv1
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