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Why are liberals so hated? (barf, gag, retch)
Auburn (NY) Citizen ^ | 3/21/02 | Graham R. Hodges

Posted on 03/21/2002 8:05:45 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: JohnGalt
You think conservatives would get upset at the elimination of capital gains taxes?
41 posted on 03/21/2002 9:10:12 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Mark Bahner
But classical liberalism has everything in common with libertarianism. In fact, they are interchangeable.

This might be the case, but it would be a mistake to characterize the Founders as Libertarians, because clearly, they were not. Maybe you could call them small-l libertarians, maybe. If you read their works and what they actually did while in office, you will see that they were NOT Libertarians.

BTW, I consider myself a libertarian, so this is not an anti-libertarian rant.

42 posted on 03/21/2002 9:11:46 AM PST by Paradox
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To: fortcollins
The American revolutionaries were very far from being libertarians

The American revolutionaries were closer to being libertarians than any other modern party. They were certainly closer to being Libertarians than being REPUBLICANS!!!!!

43 posted on 03/21/2002 9:12:34 AM PST by Mark Bahner
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To: Mark Bahner
But classical liberalism has everything in common with libertarianism. In fact, they are interchangeable.

It depends on which Classical Liberal writer you're looking at as to the degree of conformity. In the case of someone like John Stuart Mill, absolutely that is the case.

44 posted on 03/21/2002 9:12:50 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: MeSpikeLibs
Yep. He needs to READ history...not REVISE it. Which is what the Liberals are continually trying to do.
45 posted on 03/21/2002 9:13:08 AM PST by Puppage
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To: steve-b
"That was when "liberal" meant, as one would expect from the root word, "in favor of personal liberty". Since then, a Clintonian definition game shifted the term to mean "in favor of socialism"."

Exactly right. The Democrats have taken a perfectly good word and tuned into something reviled. The original "liberal" was in favor of both personal liberty, and personal responsibility. Todays "liberal" is in favor of collectivism (communism) and collective irresponsibility. (since there is no such thing as collective responsibility)

They have murdered the word "Liberal".

46 posted on 03/21/2002 9:26:02 AM PST by monday
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To: Phantom Lord
Since 1921, capital gains were considered income and yet it is taxed at a higher rate for the less wealthy and at a lower rate for the upper bracket.

Example: Worker at bottom bracket pays 12% on his income and 20% on his capital gains. Worker B pays a top rate 38% but 30% on his capital gains tax.

Do you think it was leftists who orchestrated this maneuver?

Leftists (i.e. class warfare types) recognize this. Conservatives cannot have it both ways, which they do. Capital gains are either income or they are not, hence there is no coherent Conservative movement to eliminate it, just tinker with it.

47 posted on 03/21/2002 9:29:54 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
There is no "conservative" movement to eliminate the capital gains taxes because the political reality is they could never get it through congress.
48 posted on 03/21/2002 9:32:49 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Paradox
"If you read their works and what they actually did while in office, you will see that they were NOT Libertarians."

Well some, like Jefferson, were more or less, but others like Hamilton, who was apparently a control freak, weren't. They weren't all perfect:)

49 posted on 03/21/2002 9:42:22 AM PST by monday
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"Why are liberals so hated?"

Simply because you're a bunch of damned hypocrites! You claim to be "open-minded, tolerant, and enlightened," but your open-mindedness and tolerance don't extend to people that disagree with you! You think that your so-called "enlightenment" gives you the right to tell other people what to do and how to live. Individual Rights be damned! You claim to be for individual Rights, and Freedoms, but that only extends to Rights and Freedoms that you approve of yourself. You're Anti-Death Penalty and Pro-Abortion. You claim to be against violence, then try to use the Military to force people in other countries to behave as you think they should behave. You wave the American Flag and talk about Patriotism at your convention, then denounce the United States at every opportunity, as an evil Capitalist Nation. You talk about separation of Church and State, then do everything you can to deny Christians their Right to Freedom Of Religion, while actively promoting other religions! I could go on and on.

50 posted on 03/21/2002 9:51:13 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"Seems like it's open season on us all year long. "

When does the Liberal hunting season start? I have to get my rifle scoped in! LOL

Very intertaining rant. I love to hear Liberals whine! Brings a smile to my face;o)

51 posted on 03/21/2002 9:54:22 AM PST by monday
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To: Mark Bahner
The American revolutionaries were closer to being libertarians than any other modern party. They were certainly closer to being Libertarians than being REPUBLICANS!!!!!

I like flames with republcians and conservatives but can you please remember that socialists are the real enemy not them. You do not need to attack them at every single turn. Only when they start floating socialist ideals do they deserve a spanking :).
52 posted on 03/21/2002 10:02:36 AM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It is not simply because of their idiocy and "out of mind experiences", but because they have a mania to foist their own drivel on everyone else.
53 posted on 03/21/2002 10:08:09 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Liberals are hated so much, that their opposition normally refers to them as nazis, facists, racists, bigots, extremists, mean-spirited, gun nuts, religous wackos, and homophobes.

Ooops, sorry, that's what they call us.

54 posted on 03/21/2002 10:14:07 AM PST by TC Rider
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
'Cause they're EVIL and UGLY

Susan Estrich was on Fox recently. Case in point.

55 posted on 03/21/2002 10:17:43 AM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
This story is full of BS, much of it already pointed out, but I didn't see any comment on this one though.

"the eight-hour instead of the 12-hour day"

The evil Henry Ford of the greedy Ford Motor Co. gave us the 8 hour day. He needed to run his factory 24 hours a day to keep up to demand, so he instituted 3, 8 hour shifts.

The liberal solution would have been to put the government in charge of who could buy a car in short supply and put a huge tax on it.

56 posted on 03/21/2002 10:20:05 AM PST by RJL
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Liberals are hated because they are idiots.
57 posted on 03/21/2002 10:29:19 AM PST by pankot
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Someone tell this clown that just because you claim to be a victim it doesn't make it so.
58 posted on 03/21/2002 10:55:10 AM PST by CaptRon
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Liberals first pointed out the evils of human slavery.

That was Christians. The people Liberals hate today for pointing out the evils of human abortion and human homosexuality.

59 posted on 03/21/2002 10:59:49 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: RJL
8 hour day

I will say the government workers are right now stealthily working on a 4 day 32 hour work week for us, for the same "pay" of course, or so they think. They way it works is they sign up for a 4 day 10 hour day work schedule on the pretext of reducing their overall time spent commuting, then leave work 15 minutes after the 8 hour day workers leave. I work in San Francisco and Friday's are fast becoming ghost town days.

60 posted on 03/21/2002 11:02:39 AM PST by Reeses
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