[fortcollins]

The American revolutionaries were Old Whigs, liberals in their time, but what are referred to today by Hayek, Buchanan and others as Classical liberals. Today's liberals are in fact not liberals at all but rather social democrats, and some are outright socialists. The abolitionists were Christian Evangelicals, both here and in England. As an aside, as a double Cornell graduate (B.A and PhD), I really do appreciate these reports from behind liberal lines in Ithaca. Keep them coming

[boop]

Amen to that! The abolitionists had a tendency to be (shudder) Christians; the 1850's version of National Right to Life. They were abolitioists because they felt it was anti-Christian to own slaves, NOT because they were "liberal". In fact, todays liberals would oppose abolition BECAUSE "religious fanatics" want to "impose their morals" on others.

[Mark Bahner]

The American revolutionaries were Old Whigs, liberals in their time, but what are referred to today by Hayek, Buchanan and others as Classical liberals.

...and what people who want to avoid confusion call "libertarians."