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Army fear over Blair war plans
The Observer ^ | Sunday March 17, 2002 | Kamal Ahmed and Gaby Hinsliff

Posted on 03/21/2002 8:51:15 AM PST by vannrox

Army fear over Blair war plans


Military chiefs slam lack of strategy to topple Saddam

The Iraq debate - Observer Worldview

Kamal Ahmed and Gaby Hinsliff
Sunday March 17, 2002
The Observer


Britain's military leaders issued a stark warning to Tony Blair last night that any war against Iraq is doomed to fail and would lead to the loss of lives for little political gain.


As the debate over whether to commit British troops alongside American forces intensified, the leaders urged 'extreme caution' over any moves towards war, saying servicemen faced being bogged down in a perilous open-ended commitment.


Claiming that the Government had yet to give any clear political direction over committing troops - America has asked for up to 25,000 UK personnel to join an invasion force - the sources warned that Arab countries were likely to rebel over any Western attack on Iraq without a Middle East peace deal.


Failing that, the sources said Saudi Arabia was unlikely to allow its bases to be used against Saddam Hussein. Defence sources said that, without Saudi cooperation, it would be difficult to launch a sustained attack by American and British forces.


Underlining their fears of a military strike, senior armed forces figures will warn the prime minister this week that without a leader-in-waiting to take over from Saddam, there is little chance of any successful move to overthrow the Iraqi dictator.


Opposition forces in Iraq are not as strong as they were in Afghanistan, Blair will be told. There seems to be no potential successor to Saddam that the West and Iraq's Arab neighbours could accept.


As it became clear that British troop commitments in Afghanistan would have to be extended beyond the April deadline set by the prime minister, the briefings revealed the level of concern over further military deployment against Saddam.


Although Blair has insisted no decisions have been taken, Foreign Office officials have said it was unlikely that America would be satisfied with simply sending United Nations weapons inspectors back to Iraq. This suggests that increased military strikes are the only option being seriously considered by president George W. Bush. He said last week that 'inaction was not an option'.


In a further sign of British military anxiety, leaked Ministry of Defence papers reveal the Army is warning it will need a substantially more money in this summer's Comprehensive Spending Review if it is to take on a new military campaign.


The briefing papers, prepared for General Sir Michael Walker, Chief of General Staff, warn that future funding for defence 'remains very taut, given the range of operational tasks placed on the MoD and armed forces'. Matching the available money to these tasks 'remains a very significant challenge'.


If the Government expects the forces to take on extra tasks as part of the campaign against terrorism, 'then the resources for those tasks will have to be found'. It is believed that the MoD has asked for £500 million in next month's Budget to pay for its increased commitments.


The papers reveal that British peacekeeping troops will stay in Afghanistan longer than expected, raising fears of the Army becoming embroiled in yet another long-running commitment overseas, which will drain resources.


The UK, which leads the international peacekeeping force in Kabul and has committed more than 5,000 troops, is due to hand over control of the force to Turkey next month. But it will now have to provide at least some troops 'until the end of its [the force's] mandate' - now June.


Yesterday, Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, backed up the warnings by saying he expected British troops to remain in Afghanistan for the rest of the year.


The Government has already begun trying to win 'hearts and minds' for the second phase of the war on terror. In a briefing document given to a committee of Labour MPs with expertise in defence and foreign affairs last week - and passed to The Observer - the Foreign Office says Saddam is accelerating Iraq's weapons programme.


'Its ballistic missile programme has made continued progress, and facilities damaged by Operation Desert Fox in 1998 have been repaired; in the absence of inspections, we believe Saddam is planning to extend the range of his missiles beyond the 150km limit imposed by the US.


'We believe the Iraqi regime continues its biological and chemical weapons programmes.'




TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: battle; blair; bush; iraq; ny; uk; war; weapon; wtc
By Kamal Ahmed and Gaby Hinsliff.
1 posted on 03/21/2002 8:51:15 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
Uhhhh, on second thought, Britain, why don't you just stay home.
2 posted on 03/21/2002 8:57:00 AM PST by stands2reason
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To: vannrox
Their vaunted military leaders say they can't beat Iraq. Oh, please. That has got to be the saddest, most pessimistic thing I've ever seen in my life. And that's saying alot because I'm on this site regularly. :-)
3 posted on 03/21/2002 8:59:58 AM PST by stands2reason
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To: vannrox
I continue to be amazed that officers are speaking out in public concerning their civilian leaders re war. This is totally a no-no. What are these "political" generals afraid of? You take orders from your superiors and carry them out, otherwise, GET THE $&^% OUT OF THE MILITARY! if you cannot obey your orders. No one is holding you in. Get out you bunch of pu**ies!
4 posted on 03/21/2002 9:00:04 AM PST by RetiredArmy
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Disinformation perhaps?........I'm gonna climb out on my limb here, make a prediction that the "war" in Iraq is over within 2 months, without any major military engagements.....we take out Saddam, his crazy sons, and the top 25 or so folks in the Iraqi army and intelligence, and the whole regime crumbles....it's rotten from within, based solely on terror.....
5 posted on 03/21/2002 9:34:58 AM PST by ken5050
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To: vannrox
Britain's military leaders issued a stark warning to Tony Blair last night that any war against Iraq is doomed to fail and would lead to the loss of lives for little political gain.

Uh, exuse me upperclass twits, don't you remember that we and you (and even a few Froggies) kicked the Iraqi Army all over the place about 11 years ago? This was at a time when Iraq's army expected to beat us (or at least inflict tens of thousands of casualties), had all of its equipment, and had lots of fairly recent battle experience. Now, they have much less equipment and personnel, their air defences are seriously degraded, they expect us to clean their clocks and we have even more of a technological advantage than we had then. What's the problem, you testicularly-challenged idiots?

Defence sources said that, without Saudi cooperation, it would be difficult to launch a sustained attack by American and British forces.

So we let some corrupt, perverted desert sheiks decide our policy because preventing nuclear, biological or chemical attacks on innocent civilians in our homelands would be "difficult?" Where is Churchill? Where is Thatcher? Instead, you Limeys seem to have collectively had a bad night with Lorena Bobbit, without the restorative surgery that John Wayne Bobbit later received.

Underlining their fears of a military strike, senior armed forces figures will warn the prime minister this week that without a leader-in-waiting to take over from Saddam, there is little chance of any successful move to overthrow the Iraqi dictator.

So, therefore, we should never have invaded Nazi Germany because Hitler had no leader-in-waiting to take over from him? Gee, that makes sense to me - NOT! Stupid morons, you decapitate Iraq's leadership and then install an interim leader of your choosing for a couple of years - and warn him and all successors that they will meet Hussein's fate if they travel down the same road.

Foreign Office officials have said it was unlikely that America would be satisfied with simply sending United Nations weapons inspectors back to Iraq.

Well, as usual, the Foreign Office has it wrong. America will be quite satisfied to send in UN weapons inspectors - that is, as long as you can consider about 500,000 American military personnel with "UN Weapons Inspector" armbands to actually be UN Weapons Inspectors. We would even be glad to pay the UN $0.02 per armband as a royalty.

'We believe the Iraqi regime continues its biological and chemical weapons programmes.'

Do you stupid ninnies have to wait for attacks on your own soil that cause tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths to realize that this modern version of Hitler must be stopped NOW?

In a further sign of British military anxiety...

...the British Army surrendered to three smelly old French women and a nasty poodle.

6 posted on 03/21/2002 9:44:41 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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They've forgotten who came to their aid in '17 and '41.
7 posted on 03/21/2002 10:32:24 AM PST by Chad
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To: vannrox
if the us have to do it alone,so be it,
8 posted on 03/21/2002 10:49:07 AM PST by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
If you believe active duty Brit. Generals publicly said they were against taking on Saddamn, you need to invest in the bridge I`m selling in Brooklyn. Notice no direct quotes other than we need more $$
9 posted on 03/21/2002 1:05:16 PM PST by bybybill
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