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Workers Rush To Repair Huge Hole In WTC 'Bathtub'
New York One News ^
| 3/21/02
Posted on 03/21/2002 10:41:38 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Big, big trouble at ground zero if that wall goes.
It will be Lake Zero.
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posted on
03/21/2002 10:43:02 AM PST
by
dead
To: dead
You beat me.
To: dead
It'll flood a lot of the subway too...
To: areafiftyone
Actually, I believe the flooding would go beyond the pit through the subway tunnels, if the bathtub was compromised. I'm sure this has been considered and contingencies or protective measures instituted. At least I would hope so.
To: dead
I thought they said last week that the tiebacks were working.
To: chookter
They once said that it would knock out the subway up to 32nd Street!
To: DoughtyOne
It's always been a question mark. There's no way to assess the damage to the wall without moving the wreckage, and the wreckage may be the only thing keeping the wall in place.
Hopefully, they'll be able to plug these leaks before the thing crumbles.
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posted on
03/21/2002 10:53:35 AM PST
by
dead
To: areafiftyone
I trust that a crew that can ex that hole out so fast and organize this effort will have things right as rain in short order.
Little pressure grouting ought to do the trick.
To: hellinahandcart
The structural forces such shapes are typically meant to withstand were not analyzed in the initial design to allow for the lack of a permentant building or to have withstood the effects of the complex loads imposed by the towers collapse. If this thing continues to maintanin its integraty, I will be suprised.
I bet they pump a lot of water this spring.
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posted on
03/21/2002 10:55:04 AM PST
by
KC Burke
To: antaresequity
There are concretes that will set under water. they were used extensively by the Romans. Nothing new.
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posted on
03/21/2002 10:56:00 AM PST
by
js1138
To: dead
"It will be Lake Zero." ha.........You are so cold, dead! ;)
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posted on
03/21/2002 10:57:07 AM PST
by
SunnyUsa
To: SunnyUsa
It may sound cold, but the worst-case scenario would include not only a lake seven stories deep but also danger to the buildings on the other side of the bathtub--the ones on the landfill, on the other side of that wall.
Hopefully nothing even close to that happens.
To: js1138
I dont think the flooding of this hole is nearly as troublsome as the possible soil liquifaction between the pit and the river. If you create a low pressure area like this, and the ground water continues to migrate...where as it otherwise would be more or less static....other buildings might be troubled...the ones that lay between the pit and the river...
To: antaresequity
I think the buildings are on granite. The problem is flooding.
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posted on
03/21/2002 11:10:35 AM PST
by
js1138
To: dead
Yes you're right. I'm sure they've had inspectors roaming that place constantly looking for signs of weakness. To the extent that they've been able to, I'm sure they know what's going on. Still, there's only so much they can know for sure. Evidently the basin is in tact or they'd be seeing a lot of water already since they're only a foot above the water table. Let's hope things hold up.
To: CasearianDaoist
They once said that it would knock out the subway up to 32nd Street!
What about the PATH tubes over to Jersey?
To: chookter
It'll flood a lot of the subway too...
Flooding the subways is the least of the worries. A good amount of Battery Park City could very easily wash away....and remarkably quickly, I might add.
The NY Times, back in late September, ran an excellent in-depth article on "the bathtub"....it was scarey.
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posted on
03/21/2002 11:12:52 AM PST
by
wheezer
To: js1138
No, there's a good many buildings on landfill to the west of the WTC.
To: js1138
I think the buildings are on granite. The problem is flooding.
Only the biggest ones, the rest are on landfill from the excavation for the towers.
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posted on
03/21/2002 11:14:53 AM PST
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wheezer
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