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Law catches up to ecoterror
The Washington Times ^ | March 24th, 2002 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 03/25/2002 5:01:20 AM PST by sauropod

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To: boston_liberty
Go to this site to see who PETA gives $'s too and who gives $'s to PETA, (Activist Cash.com)
42 posted on 03/25/2002 10:46:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
"The FBI estimates that the ALF/ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the United States since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of $43 million," said Mr. Jarboe the Feb. 12 hearing before the House Resources Commitee's subcommittee on forests and forest health.

How can anyone consider these acts as petty acts committed by an idealist group of people. These people are terrorists!!
44 posted on 03/25/2002 10:53:41 AM PST by JustAmy
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To: boston_liberty
No problem. I'll repost this link to the thread last week re this announcement of the PETA peat moss burger thing.

It is an interesting look at how even conservatives can be buy into the lies of the left, in this case PETA and the Burger King announcement re the PETA PEAT Moss Burger. I took a lot heat for daring to expose what really happened on this Rico deal. (Original Thread on Burger King and their new Peta Peat Moss Burger)

I have a conservative black friend who says follow the money whenever something like this is announced. Often the money trail uncovers some real shady deals.

45 posted on 03/25/2002 10:58:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: JustAmy
In Oregon where about 60% of their economic Terrorists acts have happened, the moss covered Oregonians often look at these criminals as heroes. The current governor of Oregon has made sure that during his term, the ALFS/ELFS/PETAS/ and the anarchists associated with enviral terrorism have had a free hand with no real police work at the state level to tie them into crimes.

They have forced hundreds of people whose livelihoods depending on logging and forestry products out of their jobs due to their economic terrorist activities.

47 posted on 03/25/2002 11:03:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: boston_liberty
A person or group of people can be terrorists without killing someone. When you destroy someone's livelihood and their personal property, I consider that a terrorist act.
48 posted on 03/25/2002 11:17:40 AM PST by JustAmy
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To: boston_liberty
Nobody knows if they have killed anyone yet. This post from another freeper on this thread set the stage on this:

It is worth noting that alf/elf (same faces, different hat du jour) seldom take responsibility for their actions until several days after an event. Some have suggested that they are meticulously avoiding accountability when lives are lost or serious injuries occur. I wonder how a truthful list of their atrocities would read.

All of the ists lie. When they were making the mountain lions a protected species in Kali and Oregon, we heard the mantra that mountain lions had never killed a single human. My retort then was how do we know that. A single person attacked and killed in the wilderness and eaten by the lions and the buzzards might not leave any signs after entering the food chain.

Then we started hearing about humans being killed by mountain lions and partially eaten after the cougars became protected species. So much for their mantra re no humans had ever been killed by lions.

This is what makes politics. 1% of the population agrees with you that these scumbags aren't terrorists, 20% will defend anything they do to America/Americans (same ones who defend the Islamic Terrorists), and eventually about 80% will see their actions as politically and $ driven acts of terrorism!

If I lose my job due an act of terrorism by al Qeada/al Fuqra or by an act of economic terrorism by ALF/ELF/PETA or the Anarchists in Oregon. The result is the same. I lost my job due to terrorism, an act of violence commited for a political and economic reason.

49 posted on 03/25/2002 11:19:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: boston_liberty
Technically, I don't agree until they injure or kill someone. I think to use the word otherwise thoroughly reduces it's meaning and impact.

"terrorism n the act of terrorizing; use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, esp. such use as a political weapon or policy."

ELF and ALF's tactics are the dictionary definition of the word.

Why should someone have to be physically injured or killed in order to be considered a victim of terrorism? A person's whole life's work being destroyed by an unseen enemy should certainly qualify as terrorism.

I'd love to see followup reports on the victims of these hideous people, and how their lives have played out in the aftermath of the attacks.

People have committed suicide after the IRS has taken everything they own - what difference does it make the manner of the theft and destruction of the property? The effect is the same - it's gone.

52 posted on 03/25/2002 11:35:10 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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It is worth noting that alf/elf (same faces, different hat du jour) seldom take responsibility for their actions until several days after an event. Some have suggested that they are meticulously avoiding accountability when lives are lost or serious injuries occur

An excellent point, kitchen.

They do go out of their way to emphasize their concentration on evil property, not people.

How many arsons resulting in deaths and injuries have they been responsible for? Very good point.

54 posted on 03/25/2002 11:40:51 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: sauropod
WOW! Some excellent info here! Good luck on the 20h!
56 posted on 03/25/2002 12:05:10 PM PST by Bob J
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To: editor-surveyor
The environment is not threatened by the actions of men; it's too big to even notice us!

HorseHillary! You are as far off-base as these leftist wackos are,but in the opposite direction. Look at the rivers and lakes that were so polluted nothing lived there that have now been cleaned-up. Remember the "Brown River" in Cleveland actually catching fire? Look at all the animals that have been brought back from the edge of going extinct that are now flourishing now,some flourishing too damn much.

In short,there has to be a reasonable balance.

57 posted on 03/25/2002 3:15:41 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Madame Dufarge
Madame as usual, we are in agreement here!

I live on the West Coast and have seen the effects of this eco terrorism on the innocent people out here and their families the real innocent victims!

I, also, classify gang violence on innocents as acts of terror or terrorism!

Going back to another area agreement, how do you fill about the dis/miss/and maybe truthful info that the Iraquis and others are getting from Rummy and probably our CIA. It has been a moving picture of beauty the past few weeks!

Here is your definition of terrorism that I'm in full agreement:

"terrorism n the act of terrorizing; use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, esp. such use as a political weapon or policy."

ELF and ALF's tactics are the dictionary definition of the word.

Why should someone have to be physically injured or killed in order to be considered a victim of terrorism? A person's whole life's work being destroyed by an unseen enemy should certainly qualify as terrorism.

I'd love to see followup reports on the victims of these hideous people, and how their lives have played out in the aftermath of the attacks.

People have committed suicide after the IRS has taken everything they own - what difference does it make the manner of the theft and destruction of the property? The effect is the same - it's gone.

Notice how the bad guys try to change the language like define is and sex?

58 posted on 03/25/2002 4:30:22 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: sauropod
Thanks for the ping. I read this in the Washington Times this morning. It's about time that ALF and ELF and others like them are properly described -- eco-terrorists. They attack and destroy and don't worry about the consequences. They must be held accountable for their actions and the punishment must be severe to discourage further acts of violence and terrorism.
59 posted on 03/25/2002 5:10:46 PM PST by Angelwood
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To: editor-surveyor
More than that, we need to tell the truth to students in our pubic screwels:...

But who will determine the truth?
The teachers use the same flawed data and biased reports as the enviro-wackos.

60 posted on 03/25/2002 5:31:57 PM PST by sistergoldenhair
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