Posted on 03/26/2002 6:34:05 AM PST by Sir Gawain
Libertarians don't even believe in borders.
There are no illegal immifgants in their view -- can't be.
Many have suggested that section 244(i) grants "amnesty" to illegal aliens, but this is not true. In fact, it only applies to that group of people who meet the following criteria: they are eleligilble for permanent residency status have lived in this country since Dec. 2000 their application is based on a family relationship that existed prior to Aug. 15, 2001 or on an application for labor certification that was processed before Aug. 15, 2001.
It's not an amnesty!
This is the first step in the process of "amnesty". De-facto, it is a precedent to amnesty and therefore, can and should be considered as intrinsically a part of this process. Maybe Tom Tancredo (Republican-Colorado) could shed some light on this point.
Many have suggested that section 244(i) grants "amnesty" to illegal aliens, but this is not true. In fact, it only applies to that group of people who meet the following criteria: they are eleligilble for permanent residency status have lived in this country since Dec. 2000 their application is based on a family relationship that existed prior to Aug. 15, 2001 or on an application for labor certification that was processed before Aug. 15, 2001.
It's not an amnesty!
To be fair, most of you at least got the name of the Section right... 245(i).
Ron Paul has never been an icon of any sort to me, and his statement amounts to either spin and dissembling, or outright confusion.
Once again...
INS Memo: Sec. 245(i) filingsSection 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment.
Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.President Bush's desired 245(i) extension was specifically about illegals.
Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.Here's more...
How Do I Benefit From Section 245(i)?
(from INS website)Our immigration laws allow qualified individuals to enter the United States as lawful permanent residents ("green card" holders) after they obtain immigrant visas from a consulate or embassy outside the United States or, for many immigrants already lawfully in the United States, through a process called "adjustment of status." If you entered the United States unlawfully, if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, or if you worked without permission, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States.
You might need section 245(i) if you:
- Entered the U.S. without being inspected by an INS official.
- Stayed in the U.S. longer than allowed by INS.
- Entered the U.S. as a worker on an aircraft or ship (crewman).
- Entered the U.S. as a "Transit Without Visa."
- Failed to continuously maintain a lawful status since your entry into the US.
- Worked in the U.S. without INS permission.
- Entered as an "S" nonimmigrant (relates to witnesses about criminal or terrorism matters).
- Are seeking a work-related visa and are out of status at the time of filing the application to adjust status (Form I-485).
- Worked in the U.S. while being an "unauthorized alien."
Here's a nice refutation by Michelle Malkin of the embarassing Wall Street Journal editorial, "Immigrants and Terrorists," that so many of FR's Bush apologists and Amnesty Deniers were clinging to earlier this month.
What about the thread yesterday about the Bill that was introduced to shut down the INS in the wake of the whole 9/11 debacle? How are we going to have 200 additional INS Inspectors if there is no longer an INS? Something about this whole thing is beginning to stink! It's like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
Agreed!
Genuine immigration reform can only result from elimination of the current welfare state and a renewed embracement of the constitutional principles under which transfer payments were the exception rather than the rule. Such a renewal will not only attract the industrious, but will deter those migrants merely looking for a free ride on the backs of taxpayers.
I said this before, here.
Many have suggested that section 244(i) grants "amnesty" to illegal aliens, but this is not true. In fact, it only applies to that group of people who meet the following criteria: they are eleligilble for permanent residency status have lived in this country since Dec. 2000 their application is based on a family relationship that existed prior to Aug. 15, 2001 or on an application for labor certification that was processed before Aug. 15, 2001. This bill will also allow those who are "waiting in line" for their application to be processed to remain in this country, provided they have a sponsor. In addition, they will be required to pay a penalty of $1000 before they can reapply.
And I said that, here.
Other provisions of HR 1885 will go a long way toward addressing your concerns regarding border control and security.
That's right. Thanks Ron Paul. We totally agree!
Don't you see the weasel words? "I am against general amnesty..."
Sounds like too many have figured out the Clintonian "no blanket amnesty" promise, so the Amnesty Deniers are fishing for new jargon.
our present welfare states draws those from other jurisdictions who come for the security guaranteed by government forced transfer payments. Genuine immigration reform can only result from elimination of the current welfare state and a renewed embracement of the constitutional principles under which transfer payments were the exception rather than the rule.
Ive been pointing out for years that our immigration problem lies not in those crossing the borders, but with the socialist agenda of those already here.
Oh come on sink. If you say this enough, even *you* may begin to believe it.
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