[Sir Gawain]

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[tallhappy]

Of course he would vote for it or support it. If he didn't he would be very untrue to his philosophy.

Libertarians don't even believe in borders.

There are no illegal immifgants in their view -- can't be.

[sinkspur]

Let's repeat what Paul says. He says the same thing lots of the rest of us have been saying since this bill was passed:

Many have suggested that section 244(i) grants "amnesty" to illegal aliens, but this is not true. In fact, it only applies to that group of people who meet the following criteria: they are eleligilble for permanent residency status have lived in this country since Dec. 2000 their application is based on a family relationship that existed prior to Aug. 15, 2001 or on an application for labor certification that was processed before Aug. 15, 2001.

It's not an amnesty!

[tallhappy]

Funny. Ron Paul claims he will re-write the constitution singlehandedly to make everything all right.

[cynicom]

Political spin balogna, regardless of how Paul slices it.

[TomGuy]

Rest assured, I believe that immigrants should not receive any form of welfare or public assistance, and this is why I am cosponsoring HR 190, which would revoke the automatic citizenship, and thus right to welfare benefits, currently granted to the children of illegal immigrants.

Politicobabble. All HR190 says is that a child born to "a mother who is neither a citizen or national of the United States nor admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident" is not a citizen of the US. The Bill addresses nothing regarding benefits to illegals.

HR 190
A BILL
To clarify the effect on the citizenship of an individual of the individual's birth in the United States.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. BASIS OF CITIZENSHIP CLARIFIED.
In the exercise of its powers under section 5 of the Fourteenth Article of Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the Congress has determined and hereby declares that any person born after the date of enactment of this Act to a mother who is neither a citizen or national of the United States nor admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident, and which person is a citizen or national of another country of which either of his or her natural parents is a citizen or national, or is entitled upon application to become a citizen or national of such country, shall be considered as born subject to the jurisdiction of that foreign country and not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States within the meaning of section 1 of such Article and shall therefore not be a citizen of the United States or of any State solely by reason of birth in the United States.

[Destructor]

"ther provisions of HR 1885 will go a long way toward addressing your concerns regarding border control and security. For example this bill provides for at least 200 additional INS inspectors."

What about the thread yesterday about the Bill that was introduced to shut down the INS in the wake of the whole 9/11 debacle? How are we going to have 200 additional INS Inspectors if there is no longer an INS? Something about this whole thing is beginning to stink! It's like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

[dead]

our present welfare states draws those from other jurisdictions who come for the security guaranteed by government forced transfer payments. Genuine immigration reform can only result from elimination of the current welfare state and a renewed embracement of the constitutional principles under which transfer payments were the exception rather than the rule.

I’ve been pointing out for years that our “immigration problem” lies not in those crossing the borders, but with the socialist agenda of those already here.

[deport]

In the words of Ron Paul....... Now watch his demise begin

[healey22]

Sounds like all the liars got their talking points from the White House. I guess this small paragraph must have been overlooked by all the RINO'S who voted for 245i.

Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.

[wardaddy]

zzzzzzzzz.......strike the tent!

[RnMomof7]

Yadda Yada Yada...everyone needs a bargining chip in Washington..Paul has his

[PGalt]

Another great Freeper exchange bump!

[jackbill]

Once this "amnesty" is allowed, how many of these "new Americans" will be eligible to bring dozens of family members in on the basis of "family reunification"???

[Mozilla]

bump